Re:The president of Toyota will be replaced to accelerate th...
by sbradford26 on Thursday January 26, 2023 @03:47PM
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I don't think most people truly appreciate how difficult hydrogen is to work with. It is nothing like fossil fuels which can happily sit in a regular tank for extended periods of time and be fine.
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Re:The president of Toyota will be replaced to accelerate th...
by theshrike79 on Thursday January 26, 2023 @05:32PM
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Way too many people advocating for hydrogen vehicles seriously have an idea in their mind where they just pour hydrogen into a their current vehicle, and it'll still make the comforting brr-brr sounds they're used to.
They don't actually want a hydrogen vehicle, they just don't want an EV and use "hydrogen is coming Soon(tm)" as justification for it.
Re:The president of Toyota will be replaced to accelerate th...
by _hypx on Thursday January 26, 2023 @07:04PM
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People have actually looked seriously at what a world of only EVs would look like. It is basically a disaster of unsustainable resource consumption. Hence the need for hydrogen cars. EV believers have their own misperceptions about what is a good idea and what isn't.
Re:The president of Toyota will be replaced to accelerate th...
by theshrike79 on Friday January 27, 2023 @02:39AM
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Re:The president of Toyota will be replaced to accelerate th...
by _hypx on Friday January 27, 2023 @02:53AM
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Should be noted that fuel cells are batteries. We can already eliminate this problem right away. But we must "wait" for future batteries for no reason at all.
Re:The president of Toyota will be replaced to accelerate th...
by askvictor on Friday January 27, 2023 @04:27PM
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No, fuel cells consume fuel; effectively they are oxidising it in order to make electricity directly. For a hydrogen fuel cell, you still need to add hydrogen when it runs out. Whereas a battery (in the accepted usage of the word) is self-contained - electricity can be pumped in to recharge it, but no fuel.
Re:The president of Toyota will be replaced to accelerate th...
by _hypx on Friday January 27, 2023 @09:36PM
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Fuel cells do not consume fuel. It converts hydrogen and oxygen into water. You can reconvert water back into hydrogen and oxygen. You can conceive of a fully closed-cycle system for this.
But it's not worth it, since you are just carrying a big tank of water for no reason. It is a smarter solution that a battery which does carry everything at all times.