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Re:Japan Has Changed a Lot by ubercore on Thursday January 26, 2023 @06:22AM (#34530349)
I'm an American living in Norway, in a larger city (for Norway). It's hard to learn, because when I try my burgeoning Norwegian, they immediately switch to English. I don't blame them at all, but I see how someone speaking English could not learn Norwegian in 10 years and be very happy.
Re:Japan Has Changed a Lot by miroljub on Thursday January 26, 2023 @06:24AM (#34530375)
That's because you are visibly American. If you looked more like a southerner, you'd have much better, they wouldn't switch to English. On the other hand, they wouldn't even speak a Norwegian to you.
Re:Japan Has Changed a Lot by ubercore on Thursday January 26, 2023 @06:39AM (#34530490)
I don't think it's looks, it's accent. Often someone will start a conversation with me in Norwegian before I've spoken, then switch when I answer. Granted, My Norwegian is not great yet (A2/B1 level), but it still definitely makes it harder to practice and learn here.
Re:Japan Has Changed a Lot by radiator on Thursday January 26, 2023 @07:20AM (#34530800)
You could answer their English in Norwegian, or even some other language, e.g. French. If you have started the conversation in Norwegian, they should not assume you can speak English anyway.
Re:Japan Has Changed a Lot by ubercore on Thursday January 26, 2023 @07:33AM (#34530899)
True, but politeness feels like continuing in English, because I have no idea if they care to struggle through a conversation with me, and asking people that 5 times through the course of every day starts to wear me down.
Re:Japan Has Changed a Lot by Tainnor on Thursday January 26, 2023 @02:28PM (#34537401)
Yeah you have to get over the "politeness" hurdle if you want to seriously learn a language.

When I go to Spain, I will always try to speak Spanish and if they reply in English (which they often do because I make mistakes and/or have an accent), I just keep replying in Spanish. That may be seen as "rude" or inefficient by some (although others probably appreciate the effort), but it's really the only way you can keep making progress. (Of course, if it really gets too complicated you can still switch - but usually people switch way before they've reached the end of their skills.)