News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by onlyrealcuzzo on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @07:49PM (#34526370)
> I get that Apple stuff is generally a nice experience and there is genuinely lots of cool technology, but people need to understand the future they are buying into with Apple.

Can't speak for all Apple users, but the way a lot of my friends talk about their phones - it is crystal clear they think they're better than you if you don't have an iPhone.

I imagine this subset of users would be glad that people without iPhones can't listen to podcasts.

I think they're aware of what they're buying into and like it.

Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by MBCook on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @09:33PM (#34527066)
As someone who loves Apple stuff: what kind of people are you hanging out with?

I’ve never heard an adult I interact with express that. My Android using friends don’t care.

Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by hot_gril on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @09:39PM (#34527103)
There are people who get iPhones just for iMessage. They don't want to be the one person who puts the entire group chat into "green bubble" mode. People accuse Apple of doing this intentionally, but you know, it's not their fault SMS is terrible; even Android users tend to use WhatsApp or something for group chats.
Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by MBCook on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @09:49PM (#34527169)
So I totally understand that. But does that rise to the level of “I’m a better person than you”?

I guess I haven’t heard it put that way.

Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by hot_gril on Thursday January 26, 2023 @01:14AM (#34528238)
I know it was a thing in middle school, and I'll bet some people never grew out of it. I've never heard an adult directly say that having an iPhone makes you better, but I have seen groups exclude people based essentially on income, and none of those people would be caught holding an Android phone.

It's dumb, I hate smartphones.

Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by arvinsim on Thursday January 26, 2023 @03:27AM (#34529153)
At least WhatsApp can be used in iOS.

Can iMessage be used in Android? No.

Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by hot_gril on Thursday January 26, 2023 @01:58PM (#34536861)
I think the SMS fallback makes this fair. Apple saw how bad SMS is, they made a better replacement with automatic fallback to the more open standard of SMS, and I don't see why it's their job to give the upgraded mode to everyone for free.

They even put early effort into making Macs send/receive SMS via the iPhone. Google didn't do something similar until recently, or did they, hard to tell with their chat app naming.

Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by onlyrealcuzzo on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @10:33PM (#34527392)
I cannot tell you the amount of times my friends mentioned Green Bubble to me as an insult.
Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by slenk on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @11:15PM (#34527612)
I just call them sheeple
Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by paulcole on Thursday January 26, 2023 @12:08AM (#34527883)
Are you the person who made up that insult? Or do you just go along with all the other people who use it?
Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by slenk on Thursday January 26, 2023 @12:12AM (#34527923)
When did I say I wasn't a sheeple?

I just think the adult iPhone users that care about the color of a text message are pretty brainless. Care about something important.

Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by MBCook on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @11:45PM (#34527749)
As a person insult? Or an insult against your phone choice?
Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by onlyrealcuzzo on Thursday January 26, 2023 @01:36AM (#34528385)
What is a person beside the sum of their choices?

If having Green Bubbles is a negative connotation. It would seem it's because Blue Bubbles have a positive connotation.

It does not seem like a stretch that someone talking like that feels elitist because they have an iPhone - which they express by your lack of Blue Bubbles.

Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by unosama on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @11:53PM (#34527800)
And that was basically Apple's strategy to begin with. That user can say he doesn't experience it in his friend group but its been well documented and accepted at this point [1], especially among teenagers.

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-apples-imessage-is-winning-...

Re:The absolute audacity of Apple Podcasts by steve1977 on Thursday January 26, 2023 @05:03AM (#34529802)
I think it's local phenomenon. It seems to be the case in the US at least. Where I live (Switzerland), most people are using WhatsApp (or Threema or Signal) anyway, even if they have iPhones.