I asked some Chinese college students about this about 10 years ago. "What is Taiwan?" "Province of China." "But don't you need a visa to visit?" "It's a special province."
Re:Speak softly, and carry a big chip
by bamboozled on Sunday January 22, 2023 @01:11AM
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Chinese college students are very likely to tell you one thing and believe another, it's a symptom of growing up in a place where having the wrong thing can get you in a lot of trouble.
People aren't that dumb, even if they are brainwashed.
Re:Speak softly, and carry a big chip
by throwaway290 on Sunday January 22, 2023 @09:43AM
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How can you assume a person believes something other than what they say when there is no way for you to measure what they think except through their actions and their words?
Re:Speak softly, and carry a big chip
by bamboozled on Sunday January 22, 2023 @06:23PM
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Because I believe most people deep down don't want war, or invasion and aggression.
Most people given the choice would rather live peacefully with others. The outlier here is there is 1 billion+ Chinese furious and ready to invade China. Not the other way around.
Re:Speak softly, and carry a big chip
by throwaway290 on Monday January 23, 2023 @04:10AM
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That's your philosophical position then, are humans innately good or not. I wish it was true but in the entire history of humanity tribes fought for resources, did they change...
Try replacing "Taiwan" with "Hong Kong" and not looking like a fool.
Could you explain further?
People from Mainland China need a special permit to enter Hong Kong. I don't think anyone doubts Hong Kong is part of the PRC by now. The fact that there are border and immigration controls within China isn't something new. Of course with an independent government and military Taiwan is de-facto independent, but having to get a "visa" to visit Taiwan doesn't really mean much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit-Entry_Permit_for_Travelli...
Re:Speak softly, and carry a big chip
by ssnistfajen on Sunday January 22, 2023 @01:47AM
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>it's weird that Chinese people can't visit without a passport
They do visit without a passport, the same applies to ROC citizens in reverse. That's the whole point of the political amiguity on relations between the PRC and ROC.
China is continuing to hold tibet as an invader of course, same with Xinjiang. America and western powers doesn't guarantee failure.
Eg. Afghanistan has never been held by westerners, but has been by the persians many times