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Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by 8note on Saturday January 21, 2023 @07:54PM (#34472813)
USDT's selling factor is that it's convertible to USD, no?

The interesting thing I think is what happens to those USDT after the payment?

Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by monero-xmr on Saturday January 21, 2023 @07:57PM (#34472833)
I’m less familiar with Argentina than other countries. I know in Lebanon a lot of money changers will take crypto (Bitcoin / USDT primarily) and give you paper currency. There are a lot of money changers who earn a living this way. Very likely the same in Argentina.
Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by 56friends on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:13PM (#34472978)
Do you call that "a true circular crypto economy"? Selling USDT to some shady changers on a grey market in Lebanon?
Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by FBISurveillance on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:57PM (#34473316)
While this sucks, there's a functioning P2P exchange on Binance that will let you do the exchange (albeit with slightly increased risk).

I'm personally not into crypto but I get that there're places where crypto is the only way to have any savings, think countries without free currency exchange and high inflation, like Argentina or Ukraine.

Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by HNArg024 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:13PM (#34472974)
Yep, pretty much the same here in Argentina. People are only now getting used to digital money (I don't mean cripto, I mean thinks like PayPal). Except for some places in Buenos Aires or online shops that sell contraband tech, you don't see widespread use of crypto. For us it's just a proxy for USD. Our currency is a joke (95% anual inflation) and we can only buy legally 200 USD month, so crypto is our way out.
Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by fijiaarone on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:29PM (#34473088)
No street exchanger is going to take your cryptocurrency and give you money if they can’t get money back out of it.
Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by monero-xmr on Saturday January 21, 2023 @08:56PM (#34473305)
They typically send the crypto to a coworker in another country who cashes it out. Crypto has no borders
Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by threeseed on Saturday January 21, 2023 @10:02PM (#34473781)
> Crypto has no borders

At some point you are going to want to cash out your crypto to USD.

Which is a regulation point that will need to implement KYC/AML.

Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by monero-xmr on Saturday January 21, 2023 @10:09PM (#34473831)
In Lebanon, $500 USD goes a long way, and a lot of KYC rules are under that limit. All manner of mechanisms exist such as gift cards and cell phone minutes to make conversion without KYC. And to be honest the entire KYC system is pretty ineffective anyway, a straw man can be found extremely easily if they have a pulse and a valid ID card.

I’m sorry the truth doesn’t match what you want but this is reality I’m speaking of.

Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by threeseed on Saturday January 21, 2023 @11:30PM (#34474294)
That's fine you can keep your $500 USD transactions.

I am talking about the larger financial transactions that actually underpin the global economy.

And for those crypto very much has borders.

Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by throwaway290 on Sunday January 22, 2023 @10:12AM (#34478091)
I think it's clear that this whole process is not really circular and hinges on people who collect bitcoins thinking they will keep growing in value. These folks are willing to not be able to get out for now, but they will be making a hell of a lot of effort to push the croins onto all of us because it would put them right at the top of the pyramid along with Satoshi and friends.
Re:Binance says banking partner will stop processing SWIFT t... by int_19h on Saturday January 21, 2023 @11:03PM (#34474138)
Hawala has been a thing long before crypto, with plenty of experience creatively dodging such regulations. And I would expect there to be a considerable intersection between the two in a place like Lebanon.