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Re:Heat pumps of the 1800s are becoming the technology of th... by PaulHoule on Monday January 16, 2023 @07:58PM (#34407798)
It doesn't get that cold in most places in Australia does it?

Heat pumps need to be scaled for the maximum heating or cooling load, whichever is greater. The optimal situation is that the heating and cooling loads are similar, but in colder parts of the U.S. the heating load is much larger than the cooling load and the case for the heat pump is not so good as a place where the need for heating and cooling are more balanced.

Re:Heat pumps of the 1800s are becoming the technology of th... by yaysyu on Monday January 16, 2023 @08:14PM (#34407931)
Depends on your frame of reference but in Melbourne it can get to around 1 degree Celcius in winter (33~F). Sometimes subzero but very rarely
Re:Heat pumps of the 1800s are becoming the technology of th... by PaulHoule on Monday January 16, 2023 @08:18PM (#34407959)
In upstate NY it gets a lot colder than that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syracuse,_New_York#/media/File...

the average temperature is below freezing for four months.

Re:Heat pumps of the 1800s are becoming the technology of th... by fifteenforty on Monday January 16, 2023 @08:50PM (#34408198)
That actually sounds like a perfect climate for it.
Re:Heat pumps of the 1800s are becoming the technology of th... by Zach_the_Lizard on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @07:50AM (#34411823)
In my part of Texas, it gets below freezing on 12 days a year on average, but within the last two years it's been as low as 7F / -14C.

I guess that's the value of having a big heat sink, the Pacific Ocean, at your doorstep: temperatures are more stable.

Re:Heat pumps of the 1800s are becoming the technology of th... by pxmpxm on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @07:44AM (#34411775)
We have a brand new Daikin VRV system in new york and are currently working on retrofitting a nat gas heating solution - heat pumps aren't a good fit for anywhere north of Atlanta:

When it's really cold out (say 25F or below), the heat pump stops for around 10mins to defrost the exterior coils, which means no heat running at all in that period, and this pause happens more frequently the colder it's outside. The end result, our ~1400 sq place took more than 24hrs to heat up from 55F to 72F when we got back after christmas.

Also you don't save any money on operating it, even with the efficiency yade yada the cost of electricity will run you more than the equivalent in nat gas. So nothing but downside.

Re:Heat pumps of the 1800s are becoming the technology of th... by fifteenforty on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @12:01PM (#34415049)
In Melbourne’s climate where piped methane costs 1/3 per kWh that of electricity, but heat pumps are 300-500% efficient and you remove the duct loss, for most people their heating bill drops by 2/3. Add solar self consumption and you are way ahead.

My limited understanding of the defrost cycle is that it’s most a problem around 0c? If it’s a colder or warmer it doesn’t get triggered as often?