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Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Analytics in 2023 by ksec on Monday January 16, 2023 @02:49AM (#34398020)
> though they still can't track returning visits across separate days because they rotate their salts every day.

Do we have something g in between? Knowing return visitors and not GA?

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Analytics in 2023 by jhpacker on Monday January 16, 2023 @08:48AM (#34400585)
The majority of GA alternatives use cookies, which of course do allow tracking returning visitors.

If you're asking what GA alternatives don't use cookies but DO allow tracking returning visitors, then the list gets pretty limited. The only tools I review in my book that don't use cookies by default but do allow tracking of return visitors are Clicky (which does it with User Agent + IP) and Visitor Analytics (which does it through fingerprinting).

User Agent + IP as used by Fathom and Plausible could track returning visitors if they didn't rotate their salts, but if they did this then you would need to ask for consent to track. IMHO, the issue that determines if you need to ask for consent is this persistent tracking, not the technology you use.

Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Analytics in 2023 by gmsiperx on Monday January 16, 2023 @02:51PM (#34404735)
Can you review another tool? https://usermaven.com
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Analytics in 2023 by jhpacker on Monday January 16, 2023 @03:25PM (#34405076)
Thanks for the suggestion. I've added it to my list of alternatives that I'm tracking, but it doesn't appear to have the install base required for inclusion in my book yet. I'm currently looking for GA alternatives that have at least .1% adoption within the top 1M sites.
Re:Ask HN: Alternatives to Google Analytics in 2023 by gmsiperx on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @03:43PM (#34418697)
Usermaven tracks retrurning visitors by fingerprinting.