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Re:British Motorway Database by londons_explore on Saturday January 14, 2023 @07:46AM (#34379874)
> Watch until the end for the AA man’s brilliant anecdote…

> At one point, I threw petrol[gasoline] across the motorway and lit it to try and warn them [of the accident ahead in the fog].

> But still, people still drove through it, and you could hear in the fog, bangs of more people crashing.

> [Comentator]. But nonetheless, a carnival atmosphere prevailed.

These were happier times... When even as people crash, burn, and die, people have a happy outlook on life. What happened?

Re:British Motorway Database by recuter on Saturday January 14, 2023 @08:08AM (#34380033)
Hard Times Create Strong Men, Strong Men Create Good Times, Good Times Create Weak Men, Weak Men Create Hard Times.
Re:British Motorway Database by pestatije on Saturday January 14, 2023 @08:41AM (#34380254)
Generational dynamics...same concept as "the first generation makes it the second generation spends it and the third generation blows it"
Re:British Motorway Database by andrepd on Saturday January 14, 2023 @04:51PM (#34384512)
A tired cliché with no relation to reality.
Re:British Motorway Database by recuter on Sunday January 15, 2023 @04:02AM (#34387953)
Sure, none whatsoever.
Re:British Motorway Database by blibble on Saturday January 14, 2023 @08:44AM (#34380266)
seems not very different to today

every time I see a red X over a lane on a motorway gantry (meaning: lane closed) there's people driving in it at full speed

which is why "smart" motorways are so dangerous

Re:British Motorway Database by ectopod on Saturday January 14, 2023 @09:10AM (#34380427)
An automatic driving ban for passing under (being generous) the second red cross on a lane would weed out the arseholes. Just enforcing the existing law would help. The cameras and anpr are in place so it should be cheap to implement. But whenever such a thing is suggested motorists claim it's a conspiracy to empty their pockets.
Re:British Motorway Database by dazc on Saturday January 14, 2023 @09:17AM (#34380478)
A recent development is that the red x is now enforced with a penalty notice, alas not so severe as necessary to eliminate the behaviour entirely.
Re:British Motorway Database by scott_w on Saturday January 14, 2023 @12:18PM (#34381912)
This reminds me of a tweet last year of a driver claiming a cyclist with a camera caught his dad using his phone while driving, leading to him being barred from driving and losing his job.

When someone highlighted that the 6 point penalty meant this was at least his 2nd road traffic offence, he replied “yes but that’s not the point.”

I honestly believe some people are incapable of learning and banning them for their offences is really the only answer to make the roads safe.

Re:British Motorway Database by andrepd on Saturday January 14, 2023 @04:53PM (#34384526)
An automated driving ban for many things would considerably improve road safety.
Re:British Motorway Database by dazc on Saturday January 14, 2023 @09:09AM (#34380418)
Smart motorways/Dumb drivers

There is also a temporary speed limit that 99% of drivers simply can not obey and that is 40 MPH, it's as if there is some external force at play?

Re:British Motorway Database by iso1631 on Saturday January 14, 2023 @09:36AM (#34380600)
Sometimes there are speed limits - with red circles. Most obey that IME

Then there's the advisory limits, without the red circuits, which tend to be ignored

Re:British Motorway Database by scott_w on Saturday January 14, 2023 @12:19PM (#34381930)
Because they’re enforced by cameras ;-)

I do find it amusing watching people slam their brakes on for school safety zones… at 8pm.

Re:British Motorway Database by chewbaxxa on Saturday January 14, 2023 @05:04PM (#34384588)
Problem is that most of the time the signs are wrong.
Re:British Motorway Database by kubb on Saturday January 14, 2023 @10:13AM (#34380876)
People are still happy when new motorways open, but they're used to them and expect them to be around, so it's not quite as much of a carnival atmosphere anymore as with the first one.