I think Framework is the closest thing to that.

It’s idealistic but I do like System76’s Linux first approach.

While the Framework maybe isn't 100% Linux first, Linux is definitely treated as a "first class citizen": https://frame.work/linux with active (dedicated) first party support: https://community.frame.work/tag/linux

(Matt Hartley, the new Linux Support Lead was formerly providing technical support at System76)

I ended up going with a Framework last year as an upgrade since I liked the display (3:2 HiDPI 400nit+ 13.5") and form upgradability, but also because the official Framework forums was by far the best Linux laptop forum I've seen online. As long as you can deal w/ 5-6h of battery life, I can highly recommend it as one of the best Linux ultraportable laptops (although I'm really hoping that there's a Ryzen 7040 motherboard upgrade coming...). My review/notes on the 12th Gen Framework w/ Arch Linux: https://github.com/lhl/linuxlaptops/wiki/2022-Framework-Lapt...

I mean, it wouldn't even be hard for them to partner with someone like ASUS, Acer, etc to produce semi-custom hardware.

The strict Clevo-based hardware will always turn me away from buying from them when I can get multiple AMD 6000-based laptops from Asus that run Linux fine (after a wifi-card swap, the MediaTek's they use are useless); and have superior build qualities.

They did partner with HP I think.

why don't they get rid of DC charging? two USB-C ports is what I want!

Did you not bother to look at the product page before commenting? https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter-specification https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter

In fact, it has two USB C ports, and both of those are USB 4 and Thunderbolt 4 and having DisplayPort Alt Mode. They also have three USB A ports (3.2 Gen 1), a MicroSD slot, a 3.5mm jack port, and an HDMI port.

There is even a photo with both USB C ports shown. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2059/5897/files/StarFighte...

What's more, even the charger supports both USB C and DC jack cables interchangeably. You just chose either cable type in configuration, or you buy both cables.

https://us.starlabs.systems/collections/power-cables

I was referring to the StarBook, the 14" version https://starlabs.systems/pages/starbook

The HP Dev One is what you're thinking of: https://hpdevone.com/ - it's a well reviewed developer laptop that comes w/ Pop!_OS preloaded and is very reasonably price - Ryzen 5850U (Zen3) - basically a rejiggered EliteBook 845 G8 w/ full Linux support (System76 has a repo w/ hardware support that can be used for fan speed and additional battery info: https://github.com/pop-os/hp-vendor). It's US-only and uses a SureView display (but has a 30-day return policy), so worth checking out for anyone in the market I think...

A word of warning for Asus laptops, while the asus-linux.org has being doing great work (and the G14s are known to work well), I was never able to get suspend working properly on a 2021 M16. And if anyone's trying to get a Ryzen 6000 ultralight like the Zenbook S 13 working, I think they're going to be in for a battle...

* https://zentalk.asus.com/t5/zenbook/linux-on-zenbook-s-13-ol...

* https://zentalk.asus.com/t5/zenbook/linux-support-on-zenbook...

* https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/yk8nmk/asus_...

Most laptop brands work with/own various ODMs - instead of OEM brands like Asus, Acer, think ODMs like Pegatron, Wistron, Iventec, Compal, Quanta, Clevo, etc - these companies co-design/manufacture laptops for almost all the major OEMs, but most do exclusive designs and niche brands like System76 are probably too low volume to be able to get priority/afford custom design w/ most of the Tier 1 ODMs, hence the prevalence of "white label" friendly ODM designs.

Star Labs is making what you're looking for with their StarFighter laptop, although you'll be paying MacBook Pro like pricing for it (and delivery would be in March at the earliest): https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter

starblabs look great. Great specs, coreboot, support for many linux distros....but I'm still waiting on my starbook mk VI since about last sping. It's frustrating, but I know they've had problems in the supply chain.

I'm happy to support a company like that obviously, but it's still frustrating.

This does look amazing.

System76 should work with these guys as they are doing what System76 should be doing with their laptops.

I wish they'd get rid of the DC charging jack. I'd rather have 2 USB C ports

they (starlabs) charge via usb-c and have two usb-c ports.

No magsafe.

5 years of updates is lower than macOS (I am on 7 on my MBP 2015).

The recent MBPs sport 5 nm ARM and MiniLED display.

Looks like they do a lot of things right though.

Magsafe is patented and will be for a while. Don't hold out too much hope.

Looks like it will expire in 2025, so not too long.

Patents are too damn long in tech. I wish USB-C had shorter magnetic connectors

Just get some of these magnetic attachments for your USB-C [1]. I use them on all my USB gadgets now.

[1] https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004883987830.html

The MBP is designed and manufactured by the richest company in the world. You'd expect their quality and polish to be better - and on the hardware side it is. On the flip side, the OS/software seems to get worse with each release, markup on storage and memory are absurd and you aren't able to upgrade or repair any components, and you trade any quality of life wins with ever-increasing anti-consumer lock-in/policies... So the trade-off is up to you.

That's 5 years of updates to the firmware. Not the OS. You configure it with something like Ubuntu LTS and you're good until 2032 with regards to OS security updates. And I wouldn't be surprised if the 32.04 LTS ran on it too whereas a comparable MBP will have been dropped by a couple years prior.

The Thelio is quite nice

There will never be a MacBook of Linux or Windows unless the OS is optimized as much as MacOS is to the underlying hardware. Windows is optimized to a high degree and still cannot match the standby/resume times or battery life of MacOS, and thats without M1.

Linux is not even in the same ballpark. System76 apply some tweaks but its still Ubuntu and as a desktop OS its lacking in many areas.