The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income

Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by andorov on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @02:58PM (#34343757)

> Land used to exist without a monetary cost to access it. That was the natural way of things prior to the private property system and monetary system.

All land / resources were staked out by small tribes of humans who might kill you for using it?

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Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by dktoao on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:09PM (#34343907)

Yes, that is the process of "civilization" that he is talking about in the article. I'm starting to think that some of these comments are generated by someone typing "Give me a really generic conservative argument against UBI" into ChatGPT.

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Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by kodyo on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:15PM (#34343981)

The arguments for it aren't impressive either.

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Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by dktoao on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:20PM (#34344054)

What arguments for it? I scanned this entire thread and I don't see a single one.

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Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by kodyo on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:23PM (#34344104)

Google it.

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Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by dktoao on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:34PM (#34344286)

Ok, I'm almost convinced now that I am arguing with a ChatGPT bot. An actual human would know that given the context of the conversation this is a non-sense answer. No shit I can scour the internet for bad takes on any subject, wow, what a revelation!

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Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by andorov on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @04:00PM (#34344733)

I'm not presenting an argument against UBI - I am pointing out that his argument is flawed.

Small tribes of humans defending hunting/foraging grounds is a state of pre-civilization. Life required work then too, and things were worse. His premise is that things used to be better and we've made it worse. Hard disagree.

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Re:The Spaceballs Argument for Unconditional Basic Income by Dylan16807 on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @03:11PM (#34343934)

The post is suggesting that the community nature of land ownership was better at that point in time, not that anything else was better.

Do you think the risk of death from other tribes is inextricably tied to community-owned land?

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