Re:Genders.wtf
by gambiting on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:37PM
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It's insane to me that the automatic conclusion from the above is that organisation B is racist.
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You just went from "Org B likely has some issues" to "automatic conclusion."
No, I actually went off the first sentence:
"So which report makes an organization less racist"
So that implies that org B is more racist(because it hired zero brown people) - is that not the conclusion the author of the comment wants us to reach?
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If I say that my uncle is more racist than my cousin, do you think my uncle is racist, or not?
You roll a die 120 times, get 20 1's, 20 2's, 0 3's, 20 4's, 40 5's, and 20 6's.
Do you or do you not think it is incredibly likely this is an unfair die.
That's Company B.
If your company takes a pile of CVs and randomly picks a bunch of people to hire, then yes, you are absolutely correct, there is something very very wrong with company B if a truly random process results in an unequal distribution of hires.
But hiring isn't random. Maybe all the "brown" candidates lacked necessary qualifications. Or needed visas which they couldn't get. Or a million other reasons other than "org B is racist".
My point is: you need further context. To look at that one stat as given above and conclude org B is racist is....unwise.
Re:Genders.wtf
by brianwawok on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @01:11PM
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Is that how you hire? You litearlly roll a dice for an interview? No bias of "This guy looks / acts / talks like me?"
I am not sure I have ever been on a team without some kind of like-me bias. It's real hard.
Re:Genders.wtf
by MockObject on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @01:07PM
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This is a very inappropriate analogy, because humans are very diverse; the exact opposite of a die's faces.
We’re not discussing f a human. We’re talking about fairly coarse demographic buckets
Re:Genders.wtf
by 31337Logic on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @01:32PM
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...or that Org A is "less racist", as I've demonstrated.
Poor analogy by the OP.