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Re:Genders.wtf by jeroenhd on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:19PM (#34341129)
I don't think salutations seriously matter in most (English-speaking) countries. Even in professional settings, I receive emails that address me by my first name.

Even still, if you must record the relevant salutations, you can ask for the salutation to use rather than the gender or sex.

Re:Genders.wtf by leifg on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:23PM (#34341180)
It doesn't matter for English website because you usually send out emails with "Hi Joe".

Once you internationalize you will need this because in German it's an absolute no go to address a stranger by their first name (at least for B2B services).

And internationalization is on the road map for a lot of companies.

Re:Genders.wtf by counttheforks on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:31PM (#34341304)
They'll survive being addressed by their name. Much better than systematic sexism.
Re:Genders.wtf by CrazyPyroLinux on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:46PM (#34341611)
Devil's advocate: They'll also "survive" being "misgendered." Maybe embarrassing/rude event, to be avoided if possible, but not everything has to be "systemic -ism."
Re:Genders.wtf by shakesbeard on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:51PM (#34341710)
You may wanna read up on honorifics [0]. That stuff is cultural and you'll be persevered as unprofessional or even non-trustworthy by failing to properly use it.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorific

Re:Genders.wtf by counttheforks on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @01:11PM (#34342067)
Not allowing women to work is also cultural. Doesn't mean it's something we should support.
Re:Genders.wtf by mindover on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:31PM (#34341311)
Huh I didn’t know that! So does it mean that websites internationalize even the salutations? Do they replace “Hi Joe” with “Good day Mr. Brown” in Germany?
Re:Genders.wtf by Akronymus on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:48PM (#34341642)
It depends. If it started in an english speaking country, then more than likely not for a long time. If it started in a germanic one, it'd almost 100% be the last name.
Re:Genders.wtf by leifg on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @01:27PM (#34342337)
It has less to do with where it started and more with the language and what field the business is operating in.

I was working for a UK steel supplier and they would address all their email recipients with their first name. We had to change this when internationalizing into German. If you want to sell to Germans you are much safer to use a more formal tone.

Slightly related to that is the formal and informal you that exists in a lot of languages.

I was also working for a German fashion startup mostly targeted at young women. In German it was fine to address everyone by first name and the informal you, but when translated the page to French, we could keep the first name but had to change the informal you to the formal one.

Re:Genders.wtf by zyx321 on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:44PM (#34341561)
Many of the examples on that website are not from English-speaking countries. "diverse" and "female doctor" are typically German, and "male" = "bad" was likely mistranslated from Italian (or another Latin language)