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Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by jfengel on Sunday January 08, 2023 @08:35PM (#34305635)
We're Americans. If we practiced DBAD, pretty much everything would be different.

Of all our American flaws, "It's not illegal for me to be a dick and therefore I am going to be on" is perhaps the one we're proudest of. (Followed, perhaps, by "It's illegal for me to be a dick but you can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt and that's as good as legal" and "It's illegal for me to be a dick but nobody is going to bother prosecuting therefore it's as good as legal.")

It would be great if we all practiced Don't Be A Dick. But for those who are most harmed by people being dicks, we need to figure out ways to protect them legally, because otherwise people will be a dick to them as hard as they possibly can. And every time you try, people will say "Nobody is being a dick to me therefore nobody needs to be protected."

Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by okamiueru on Sunday January 08, 2023 @10:45PM (#34306493)
Sometimes I wonder if there is something in the food or the air, or if it's all due to Murdoch. You're describing the symptoms all too well. I wonder what the cause is.
Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by bruce511 on Sunday January 08, 2023 @11:06PM (#34306627)
There are two ways to view the world, and what we do in it. Which one we adopt largely depends on the one those around us adopt.

I make no judgement about which is "better" or "worse" - they both have positives and negatives. Inevitably, and obviously, you can probably figure out which one you fall into based on which one you react to.

In the first case, you view the world around you and yours. You see events and think "how does this affect me and people like me". If taxes are going up this means I get less money.

The alternative is through the lens of "how does this affect others." - them and theirs - yes, taxes are going up, but those in need will get better medical care, and I already have enough money myself.

It's not just about money. Basically every policy discussion revolves around "us" and "them". Immigration, inflation, exploitation, environment, defense, guns and do on. How will this affect me and mine. How will it affect them and theirs.

Inevitably every policy has an impact on a continuum, but too often the extreme is presented by media to reinforce one end of the spectrum. Thus the extremes start to matter more than the nuanced middle ground.

Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by worik on Sunday January 08, 2023 @11:17PM (#34306684)
> There are two ways to view the world,....

More than that. Seeing that is the first step in "not being a dick"

Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by Hugsun on Monday January 09, 2023 @10:34AM (#34311446)
I agree.

An additional aspect which is the reason I'm fairly left leaning is that I really dislike encounters with downtrodden people so I will gladly pay more taxes to prevent/save them from being that way.

I could not live in a place with a homelessness issue like LA.

Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by wonderwonder on Monday January 09, 2023 @02:21PM (#34314715)
Places like LA have high taxes and more homeless than places without high taxes. Maybe the programs in place that the high taxes pay for just incentivize homeless people to move there? Left leaning cities have a far greater number of homeless people.
Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by wonderwonder on Monday January 09, 2023 @02:27PM (#34314789)
I would argue there is a third. I'm open to taxes going up if the extra money is used effectively. Also what behavior are the funds incentivizing? If they are not used effectively or the incentivized behavior is not optimal then I am against them. For example cities like LA and SF give money to the homeless with virtually zero requirements so they are in effect incentivizing homeless people to move there and stay homeless. I am against this. I would be for spending money to clean homeless people up and get them jobs and provide shelter until they have acclimated back into society. The program would require actual proof of the participants trying to fix their circumstances. I am always for feeding and caring for homeless kids.
Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by RGamma on Sunday January 08, 2023 @10:51PM (#34306526)
Individualism, lack of sanctions for misbehavior.
Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by ryandrake on Monday January 09, 2023 @12:30AM (#34307135)
I think a lot of people (often Americans) have trouble distinguishing between illegal/legal and wrong/right. In fact, they see no right and wrong: if I can do it then I will do it, other people be damned. They’ll wave their hands right in front of your face taunting “Nyah Nyah Nyah I can legally do this and there’s nothing you can do to stop me! Ha ha ha!” People will go out of their way to be an asshole because they can and nobody can stop them.

Don’t like if I film you? Ha ha! It’s not illegal so I’m going to deliberately film you, and by the way, in other ways I’m going to also go right up to the line of what’s illegal and not cross it, because I can and because it irritates you.

Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by spoiler on Monday January 09, 2023 @04:02AM (#34308273)
This is so infuriating and irritating to read; well done, lol
Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by jfengel on Monday January 09, 2023 @11:57AM (#34312536)
The way I see it: we were very proud of our Bill of Rights, but never came up with a corresponding Bill of Responsibilities. You wouldn't expect one, of course, but the Bill of Rights gives people a thing to hold up and declare "I got mah rights!".

Pretty much any time you see somebody clamoring about their rights, and ignoring any talk about responsibility (or talking about your responsibilities but not theirs), you can tell the conversation isn't going to go well.

Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by wonderwonder on Monday January 09, 2023 @02:17PM (#34314667)
And if you punch me in the face I'll shoot you because I feared for my life. 'Merica!
Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by locopati on Monday January 09, 2023 @01:44PM (#34314252)
It's baked into the founding of the country. A bunch of folks arrived in a place where people were living and decided those people were less than human and killed them or moved them away from their homes (often by signing contracts they had no intention of upholding). Then, we captured a bunch of people from somewhere far away and moved them here for free labor. After the war we fought to end that, many places passed a lot of unconstitutional laws to continue to make their lives miserable. It's no surprise to me that, never having reckoned with all of that, the general American attitude is entitled and thoughtless.
Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by maerF0x0 on Monday January 09, 2023 @03:51AM (#34308204)
This actually pretty accurately and succinctly describes the difference between American and Canadian culture.

As a Canadian in the US I'm often asked the difference, and I've mostly held my tongue from saying "You're all pretty damn rude, and have fragile egos" but I think I might steal your description because it makes sense.

Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by gl-prod on Monday January 09, 2023 @05:43AM (#34308923)
"You guys should practice DBAD"
Re:Stop Filming Strangers in 2023 by helloworld11 on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:38PM (#34373559)
Nonsense. As a fellow Canadian I can safely say that MANY Canadians have plenty of fragile ego problems and are plenty rude too. Let's not generalize between two whole countries. Canadian media and government policy also has an obsessive complex with "differentiating itself" from American culture, to the point of becoming tedious about it, but that's another story.