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Re:Five Mildly Anti-Buddhist Essays by dang on Sunday January 08, 2023 @04:05PM (#34303110)
> Many of them were masking their life problems with the Buddhist aesthetic as opposed to really working with them

The phrase "spiritual bypass", which I'm sure you know (it is even a cliché by now) is often used to describe this phenomenon. I recently learned that it was coined in the early 80s by the psychotherapist and Buddhist practitioner John Welwood, who had a lot of experience with this phenomenon in spiritual communities. There's a great interview with Welwood from 2011 about this. I have a pdf somewhere, but all I can find online at the moment is this excerpt: https://www.scienceandnonduality.com/article/on-spiritual-by....

The relationship between spirituality and therapy is endlessly fascinating to me. (Edit: it's no coincidence that the OP eventually ends up talking about IFS.)

Re:Five Mildly Anti-Buddhist Essays by robocat on Sunday January 08, 2023 @05:09PM (#34303737)
IFS — I am guessing Internal Family Systems: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Family_Systems_Model (I live on one edge of world and many therapies are alien to me).
Re:Five Mildly Anti-Buddhist Essays by froh on Sunday January 08, 2023 @08:53PM (#34305771)
are you familiar with James Finley? he did his PhD in clinical psychology on the relationship of contemplative spirituality and psychological healing, worked as clinical trauma therapist until his retirement and taught and still teaches his open minded down to earth approach to contemplation (what in Buddhism is called meditation) and psychological healing and wellbeing.
Re:Five Mildly Anti-Buddhist Essays by dang on Sunday January 08, 2023 @09:41PM (#34306058)
I watched some of his interview with Rick Archer but I think that was the first I'd heard of him.
Re:Five Mildly Anti-Buddhist Essays by froh on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @12:07PM (#34327968)
I find his work down to earth, approachable, undogmatic and tender

Most valuable to me is his for lack of a better term non-violence. I've never read or heard him say negative things about other schools or teachings. He simply puts out his approach to things and lets you free to take, pick, choose, whatever. For example he gives _criteria_ for a practice, a teaching, a community.

The other extremely valuable aspect is his explicit approach to trauma, to overcoming deep rooted early onset trauma, little by little.

He fluently moves between traditions, if he is teaching a Christian audience then he'll use Christinesian lingo, if he is in a neutral settings (like training therapists) he'll "translate" concepts, like "contemplative church" or "sangha" or Ashram"; or "blind" and "see" vs "unknowing" and "awakened". Like a stream enterer would know that rituals are valuable (to some or many) but interchangeable or not useful to some. Which leads me to the third valuable thing: I'm rooted in a very liberal Catholicism and it's rituals, noises, smell and lingo feel "home" to me while the Zen noises, smells and lingo confused me, while not being _substantially_ different.

so in summary I was happy to find someone in the intersection of being trauma sensitive (healing even), being open minded and seeing Jesus-as-Zen-teacher-not-mage.

:-)

on the cac.org site they host some podcast, teaching series, really, with nice transcripts even:

https://cac.org/podcasts/instructions-for-the-practice/

https://cac.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/TTTM_Transcript_I...

Re:Five Mildly Anti-Buddhist Essays by joveian on Monday January 09, 2023 @09:26AM (#34310656)
This looks like it (found via Google Scholar):

https://www.atpweb.org/jtparchive/trps-16-84-01-063.pdf

Re:Five Mildly Anti-Buddhist Essays by dang on Monday January 09, 2023 @01:43PM (#34314229)
Different to the interview I mentioned but this is a great find, since he's using the term in 1984. Thanks!