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Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by hestefisk on Sunday January 08, 2023 @05:38AM (#34297906)
The e-ink display on the laptop is quite cool. I could use that for writing simple notes and likely save a ton of battery.
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by esperent on Sunday January 08, 2023 @05:56AM (#34298022)
I wonder how the latency is? I've been resisting buying an eink notebook because I think the best latency you can get now is around 30ms, which combined with the distance between pen tip and screen will give quite a visible delay.

I guess it's personal how annoying that would be, but for myself I'm waiting for sub 16ms delay.

Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by defrost on Sunday January 08, 2023 @06:20AM (#34298154)
12 Hz refresh rate on the eInk display. ( So ~ 80ms or so refresh )

COLOUR eInk BTW - not just black and white | shades of grey!

Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by hestefisk on Sunday January 08, 2023 @07:35AM (#34298580)
It’s enough for reading books… but might be too hard for terminal editing?
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by defrost on Sunday January 08, 2023 @07:41AM (#34298614)
The "weird laptop" has a two sided screen panel - regular high res | high refresh thin film screen on one side that eats battery life - the flip side is the low power low refresh ePaper screen for reading documents, etc.

It's worth pointing out, I guess, the existence of heavy computer users that aren't programmers or gamers .. lawyers, doctors, engineers, clerks, etc that spend the bulk of their screen time viewing documents | records | etc.

What will be interesting is adoption and market penetration - cute as a concept, but will it sell?

Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by esperent on Sunday January 08, 2023 @06:08AM (#34298098)
In case you don't want to watch the video, here's the "weird" laptops:

1. Laptop with rotatable display, eink one side, oled the other. This one actually qualifies as "weird" I guess.

2. Laptop with a foldable display

3. Laptop with two displays instead of a keyboard. Looks pretty good actually, I would consider it as a mobile workstation if the specs are good enough.

And some other totally normal laptops.

Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by derac on Sunday January 08, 2023 @08:05AM (#34298776)
I'll bet the battery life is terrible with two screens, it would be amazing for working from a plug or big external battery though. The eink one seems very practical to me.
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by phil294 on Sunday January 08, 2023 @09:02AM (#34299154)
https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/5/23541379/lenovo-thinkbook-... says: "Just don’t expect Kindle battery life out of a laptop like this since you’ve got the overhead of running Windows on its 13th Gen Intel processor (and up to 16GB of RAM and 1TB of PCIe Gen 4 storage) rather than a simple e-reader chip. Lenovo’s estimating up to 21 hours of battery life from its 56Wh battery using the E Ink screen, and it isn’t providing context about what kind of content can run for 21 hours at a time."
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by phil294 on Sunday January 08, 2023 @08:55AM (#34299105)
Can we not just finally have a normal, boring, standard eink laptop? I've been waiting years for this, but all we got are broken promises, over-engineered weirdnesses like this one and dozens of tablets. I might buy this rotatable one just for that purpose, even though I don't care for the OLED side...
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by wyre on Sunday January 08, 2023 @01:54PM (#34301890)
An e-ink laptop would not be consumer friendly due to einks low refresh rate unless it was running a significant amount of custom software and the demand wouldn’t be there for a business to make it worth it.

I also love eink. Maybe if there was a FOSS OS built around eink?

Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by drpyser22 on Sunday January 08, 2023 @05:43PM (#34304133)
Do you need a whole OS, or just a specialized WM/Display manager? I assume a text based interface(e.g. console) world be the simplest to support?
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by wyre on Sunday January 08, 2023 @08:59PM (#34305818)
Surely, it wouldn’t need a whole OS, but it would need a specialized layer running over the top and that that point it might as well be a forked OS with the layer on top.
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by akvadrako on Monday January 09, 2023 @07:48AM (#34309731)
Maybe the video didn't mention it but there is also a new laptop with a 3D display that doesn't require glasses.
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by jrumbut on Sunday January 08, 2023 @06:13AM (#34298121)
It took more than a minute tell me that there's a laptop with both an OLED display and an e-ink display.

Is there a writeup of these laptops somewhere? I just don't have the patience for video.

Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by nullc on Sunday January 08, 2023 @07:52AM (#34298693)
I just want an updated x60. No stupid trackpad wasting space.
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by mmusc on Sunday January 08, 2023 @05:57PM (#34304271)
That 2 screen yoga looks interesting. You get a lot of desktop space and lots of configuration options.
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023 by Krisjohn on Sunday January 08, 2023 @09:54PM (#34306149)
Dropping the wireless keyboard onto the "bottom" and having the remaining accessible screen turn into a touchpad was pretty cool.