Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023
by esperent on Sunday January 08, 2023 @05:56AM
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I wonder how the latency is? I've been resisting buying an eink notebook because I think the best latency you can get now is around 30ms, which combined with the distance between pen tip and screen will give quite a visible delay.
I guess it's personal how annoying that would be, but for myself I'm waiting for sub 16ms delay.
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023
by defrost on Sunday January 08, 2023 @07:41AM
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The "weird laptop" has a two sided screen panel - regular high res | high refresh thin film screen on one side that eats battery life - the flip side is the low power low refresh ePaper screen for reading documents, etc.
It's worth pointing out, I guess, the existence of heavy computer users that aren't programmers or gamers .. lawyers, doctors, engineers, clerks, etc that spend the bulk of their screen time viewing documents | records | etc.
What will be interesting is adoption and market penetration - cute as a concept, but will it sell?
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023
by esperent on Sunday January 08, 2023 @06:08AM
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In case you don't want to watch the video, here's the "weird" laptops:
1. Laptop with rotatable display, eink one side, oled the other. This one actually qualifies as "weird" I guess.
2. Laptop with a foldable display
3. Laptop with two displays instead of a keyboard. Looks pretty good actually, I would consider it as a mobile workstation if the specs are good enough.
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023
by derac on Sunday January 08, 2023 @08:05AM
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I'll bet the battery life is terrible with two screens, it would be amazing for working from a plug or big external battery though. The eink one seems very practical to me.
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023
by phil294 on Sunday January 08, 2023 @09:02AM
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https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/5/23541379/lenovo-thinkbook-... says: "Just don’t expect Kindle battery life out of a laptop like this since you’ve got the overhead of running Windows on its 13th Gen Intel processor (and up to 16GB of RAM and 1TB of PCIe Gen 4 storage) rather than a simple e-reader chip. Lenovo’s estimating up to 21 hours of battery life from its 56Wh battery using the E Ink screen, and it isn’t providing context about what kind of content can run for 21 hours at a time."
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023
by phil294 on Sunday January 08, 2023 @08:55AM
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Can we not just finally have a normal, boring, standard eink laptop? I've been waiting years for this, but all we got are broken promises, over-engineered weirdnesses like this one and dozens of tablets. I might buy this rotatable one just for that purpose, even though I don't care for the OLED side...
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023
by wyre on Sunday January 08, 2023 @01:54PM
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An e-ink laptop would not be consumer friendly due to einks low refresh rate unless it was running a significant amount of custom software and the demand wouldn’t be there for a business to make it worth it.
I also love eink. Maybe if there was a FOSS OS built around eink?
Re:Weird Laptops are Coming – CES 2023
by wyre on Sunday January 08, 2023 @08:59PM
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Surely, it wouldn’t need a whole OS, but it would need a specialized layer running over the top and that that point it might as well be a forked OS with the layer on top.
I guess it's personal how annoying that would be, but for myself I'm waiting for sub 16ms delay.
COLOUR eInk BTW - not just black and white | shades of grey!
It's worth pointing out, I guess, the existence of heavy computer users that aren't programmers or gamers .. lawyers, doctors, engineers, clerks, etc that spend the bulk of their screen time viewing documents | records | etc.
What will be interesting is adoption and market penetration - cute as a concept, but will it sell?
1. Laptop with rotatable display, eink one side, oled the other. This one actually qualifies as "weird" I guess.
2. Laptop with a foldable display
3. Laptop with two displays instead of a keyboard. Looks pretty good actually, I would consider it as a mobile workstation if the specs are good enough.
And some other totally normal laptops.
I also love eink. Maybe if there was a FOSS OS built around eink?
Is there a writeup of these laptops somewhere? I just don't have the patience for video.