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Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by Scoundreller on Thursday January 05, 2023 @03:53PM (#34266379)
Is there anything in the arbitration clauses forbidding them from cancelling your account if you invoke arbitration (regardless of whether you prevail or fail?).
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by RC_ITR on Thursday January 05, 2023 @05:01PM (#34267462)
Well they have to abide by the arbitration and any good arbitrator will put a good faith clause in the agreement.
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by Scoundreller on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:17PM (#34270513)
Is it hard for a big tech company to find a bar arbitrator that won't require that in the initial customer agreement?
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by quanticle on Thursday January 05, 2023 @07:40PM (#34269288)
If they did that, then there would be no incentive for customers to choose arbitration over filing a dispute with their credit card.
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by tgsovlerkhgsel on Thursday January 05, 2023 @09:22PM (#34270149)
Arbitration is likely even more expensive than a dispute.
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by Scoundreller on Thursday January 05, 2023 @09:57PM (#34270396)
More choice of arbitration firms than credit card arbitration firms (for them, not you!)
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by tgsovlerkhgsel on Saturday January 07, 2023 @05:12PM (#34293480)
Doesn't help if each arbitration case costs a low triple-digit amount in arbitration fees + creates an expensive case in the legal department.

The arbitration is painful because of the costs (financial and staffing/handling) of the process, not the outcome.

Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by zamadatix on Friday January 06, 2023 @12:47AM (#34271456)
At the individual dispute level but in the long run arbitration means you don't lose your risk level which will almost always cost you a lot more than whatever the actual arbitration/credit disputes cost.
Re:Twilio’s toll fraud problem by tgsovlerkhgsel on Saturday January 07, 2023 @05:11PM (#34293471)
I suspect (but may be wrong, I don't know how trigger-happy the risk level changes are) the absolute number of events needed to trigger a risk level loss at the scale of Twilio would also represent a catastrophic number of arbitration cases.