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Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by hnfools on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:14AM (#34260714)
Turns out the TOS violation had nothing whatsoever to do with racism, as so many commenters here were overly confident to proclaim, in typical HN style. It's because he'd linked to prohibited content in the wiki:

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki...

Here's the issue discussing it:

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/issu...

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by sillysaurusx on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:29AM (#34261007)
That’s … actually worse that they suspended him and killed access to his projects merely for linking to NSFW diffusion models on a wiki.

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki...

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by wokwokwok on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:36AM (#34261130)
Given that it was literally a terms of service violation, and resolution was to remove the content in question (ie. this wasn’t GitHub saying “we were wrong” it was them saying, don’t do that or you’re banned)… it seems difficult to be particularly sympathetic.
Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by sillysaurusx on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:44AM (#34261300)
The terms should be changed. A violation of terms that they themselves created isn’t automatically right. It’s unclear it’s even technically right, let alone morally or strategically.

This has “kickstarter bans Unstable Diffusion” vibes.

Can anyone cite the relevant TOS section? It’d be good to know how far they’re trying to extend the moderation umbrella.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by voxic11 on Thursday January 05, 2023 @12:17PM (#34263069)
> We do not allow sexually themed or suggestive content that serves little or no purpose other than to solicit an erotic or shocking response, particularly where that content is amplified by its placement in profiles or other social contexts. This includes: ...Pornographic content

https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/acceptable-use-polici...

Now on the other hand this wasn't actually pornographic content, it was links to pornographic content and their TOS doesn't really make it clear that linking is not allowed.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by techdragon on Thursday January 05, 2023 @12:48PM (#34263597)
Haha they have a lot of spam to cleanup then.

A frequent discovery of mine is a new foothill of the mountains of spam text dumped onto GitHub. No idea what half of it is there for since it’s not even connected to a GitHub pages setup most of the time. Usually I’ll find them a few pages back for a code search where the spellchecker has helpfully ignored pluralisation and punctuation and I’m getting lots of generic results but for a long enough string of words to narrow down GitHub to the long tail of noise…

Lots of txt and markdown and html and textish formats filled with keywords and phrases, some of which are surprisingly suggestive, arguably outright pornography…

Oh and there’s the matter of all the code on GitHub related to adult websites and the pornography that they contain, heaps of web scraping scripts to harvest videos and pictures from “tube websites” … the flip side of the coin as well, the content moderation tools like perceptual hashing tools and ML models for adult content or nudity detection that need to include sample images as part of testing and training data…

This feels like an area GitHub really shouldn’t be fucking with with respect to the whole “what counts as acceptable”, it’s one thing to prevent people using GitHub to host a free porn site via GitHub pages, it’s another to start policing the definition of acceptable discourse on the topic of adult content and machine learning models, particularly given that machine learning is a highly technical topic and the state of the art is an evolving field full of deeply technical people.

I’m deeply unimpressed by the results from stable diffusion but I do see other people having success with it. For me even the most basic things seem to come out mutated and the same efforts to improve non pornography related human depictions from stable diffusion type models will also be applicable to porn … if the hands on my “18th century porcelain doll of a cowboy“ look like some kind of teratogenic mutant out of a bad hyper realistic cartoon, then the porn version can’t be much better and while rule 34 exists the majority of “pornography consumers” looking to ML model based content probably don’t want that either which leads to a sort of “dual use technology” style stand off between the “pornography” and “non-pornography” uses of the exact same technology.

GitHub are walking a thin line here and it’s not going to get easier for them.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by meowface on Thursday January 05, 2023 @10:56AM (#34261563)
This appears to be correct. The racism allegations are likely legitimate* but they don't appear to be involved with the account being taken down.

* "WhiteOnly" Rimworld mod that removes all non-whites; "PeacefulProtests" mod "narrated by George Floyd"; "BlackOnly" mod that purportedly just disables technological progression, though this claim appears to be unverified; exclusively black or black-painting artists in data set labeled with "n" + almost no other single-letters in use besides another possible euphemism, which when asked about gave a reply of "no comment"; long-time 4channer and /g/ poster (in recent years /g/ has become increasingly far-right; certainly not all /g/ posters are, but in combination with those other factors it may be relevant)

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by huggingrear on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:05AM (#34261767)
>"WhiteOnly" Rimworld mod that removes all non-whites

This was in response to an already existing mod which removed all white people, which was deemed totally fine. AUTO1111 also made a all black MOD later, which you mentioned.

>"BlacksOnly" mod that purportedly just disables technological progression

This is false: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103vsm2/we...

All it did was lock the available skintones.

>/g/ has become increasingly far-right

Any data to back this up with ? And how can you even know that AUTO1111 is active on /g/ ? It's anonymous.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by meowface on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:27AM (#34262205)
>This was in response to an already existing mod which removed all white people, which was deemed totally fine

Whether fine or not, the intentions on the part of the retaliator are obvious.

>This is false: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103vsm2/we...

Per the other comments:

>He updated the Black Only mod a month after release, and never posted the code for it on github like he did for the White Only mod, so it's impossible to say whether the comments discussing technological progression being disabled are correct.

Hence why I said "purportedly". There's no way to prove it since there's no archive of the code before that update, but it's interesting.

>And how can you even know that AUTO1111 is active on /g/ ?

He posts there as himself all the time and goes by Voldemort or Voldy. You could go and say it's an impersonator, but it's been very widely known since the start that it was made by a 4channer. The repo was first created due to discussions in the daily Stable Diffusion General threads in /g/. Here he is replying to the drama today: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/90718880/#90720622

>That is bullshit. I'm the one who wrote most of code. Most of meaningful features that people like were written from 0 by me.

>Any data to back this up with ?

It is painfully obvious if you spend 15 minutes looking through any threads. If you want, I could compile a near-endless list of extremely racist and antisemitic posts, but you would just say "that's cherrypicking", so what's the point? I urge anyone to visit https://4chan.org/g/ and click through some threads and judge for themselves. It's not a big secret that 4chan has become increasingly associated with far-right, anti-nonwhite ideology within the past 6 or so years.

You also didn't address the George Floyd (aka "PeacefulBlackMan" - https://iredd.it/fnowk8j57aaa1.png) mod or the fact that all of the people labeled with "n" are black, with the one white person being someone who draws black people, while nothing else appears to have a single-letter label (besides "c", apparently for "children"). "N" is also, among other things, a particularly popular 4chan joke/reference (like writing a post with just "N" and expecting others to complete the word in a chain).

If you want an example, here are the /g/ responses to Voldy's GitHub ban and the racism accusations from just the past 10 minutes as of writing this post: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/90720677/#90721519

>>a blacks only mod where technology progression is disabled (laughing emoji picture)

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>>blacks only mod where technological progression is disabled

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>LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>he's one of us

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>I hate fucking redditors so much. Simping for a fentanyl chimp while in same breath begging for FBI to take guns away from white people and clapping for Waco.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by iinnPP on Thursday January 05, 2023 @11:54AM (#34262704)
There were also plenty of news outlets that reported racist models that didn't produce proper representation.

The n identifier could be used as a way to negate this problem or to provide evidence to the contrary of the dominant narrative of the incredibly powerful.

When viewed as a whole, everything seems to be done to provide a counter to power. Which is also a function of truly open AI.

When all pink is okay and all purple is not, you have a seriously color-based prejudice on your hands. Anyone arguing to the contrary would be wearing a white outfit going on about power in a different time.

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by dEnigma on Thursday January 05, 2023 @01:42PM (#34264450)
I think the fact that their Steam profile[1] was at some point called "Remember the six gorillion" speaks loud enough when it comes to their character, all other things aside.

[1]https://steamcommunity.com/id/no-sry (click the little down-arrow next to their name)

Re:AUTOMATIC1111's GitHub Account Suspended For "TOS Violati... by dEnigma on Thursday January 05, 2023 @01:50PM (#34264557)
While there are some other factors at play, and some inaccuracies in those claims, mentioned by sister comments, I agree with the conclusion. I've mentioned my observations in another comment thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34261198

That all is not to say that I would agree with a GitHub suspension; just that the author seems to be of questionable character.