New York EV Garbage Trucks can only snow plow for 4 hours not 12 thats needed

Re:New York EV Garbage Trucks can only snow plow for 4 hours... by samspenc on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @03:21PM (#34250897)

Yeah having street car power lines can be a nightmare in densely crowded cities with a lot of pedestrian traffic and tightly packed buildings. It would be a nightmare to implement in a place like New York City, and I'm not surprised that cities that have them are slowly removing them.

Don't get me wrong, I think they are a great solution electrically and for efficiency / sustainability, but require an enormous geographic footprint, central planning and a lot of overhead space which is difficult to find in dense cities.

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Re:New York EV Garbage Trucks can only snow plow for 4 hours... by wolverine876 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @03:30PM (#34251040)

> street car power lines can be a nightmare in densely crowded cities with a lot of pedestrian traffic and tightly packed buildings. It would be a nightmare to implement in a place like New York City

They've been used in dense cities for generations. How hard can it be?

> require an enormous geographic footprint

What footprint is needed for additional overhead wires?

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Re:New York EV Garbage Trucks can only snow plow for 4 hours... by lostlogin on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @05:16PM (#34252668)

I wonder is it is more of less efficient for land use as they don’t need fuelling and the associated land that uses, but do need a pair of lamp posts every 10m.

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Re:New York EV Garbage Trucks can only snow plow for 4 hours... by bee_rider on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @05:45PM (#34253031)

One point in favor of running these lines — city already has lots of lamp posts.

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Re:New York EV Garbage Trucks can only snow plow for 4 hours... by simfree on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @07:14PM (#34253964)

In many cities they just bolt these support wires into adjacent buildings when there isnt a convienent lamp post.

Electrifying core parts of the route (eg: the most heavily travelled bottlenecks these trucks travel) could fix this issue, enabling charging and heating the battery and cab while still en route or plowing snow.

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Re:New York EV Garbage Trucks can only snow plow for 4 hours... by heavyset_go on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @05:46PM (#34253044)

I don't think the reason that street cars lines were removed is because they're hard to implement, I think they were removed for political reasons.

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Re:New York EV Garbage Trucks can only snow plow for 4 hours... by r00fus on Thursday January 05, 2023 @04:55PM (#34267355)

So just to be clear they shouldn't cost anywhere near as much as a subway or even tram rails. With a decent bit of battery on the vehicle, you could even have < 100% coverage and have outage resiliency.

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