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Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by wintermutestwin on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:49AM (#34247942)
>a "free" service in exchange for extremely invasive spying and psychological manipulation

/agreed

Trading trinkets to the natives for land is the most apt analogy I can think of.

In a capitalist society, we should be able to set the price for something that we own. My data is worth way more than the cost to provide the trivial services that Facebook, Gmail, etc provide.

Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by whimsicalism on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @11:51AM (#34247976)
If you think that the price is not worth it, you are free to refuse the transaction. The EU govt here is requiring the counterparty to provide you with the service even if you refuse the transaction.
Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by e_i_pi_2 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:00PM (#34248125)
I think this is like predatory lending laws - you can be forced to give someone a loan at a reasonable price, even if you can convince them to pay way more. The same argument also works for voluntary slavery - I think people have the right to say "even if it's initially consensual, it still seems like an abusive business model that we shouldn't allow"
Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by whimsicalism on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:07PM (#34248255)
You aren't forced to give someone a loan at a capped price, you can simply refuse to loan out your money. The government does not compel you to loan, so it is not analogous.

I get the logic of rendering certain voluntary transactions illegal. Child labor (questionably voluntary) & minimum wage laws come to mind. This is distinct because those laws don't require companies to hire people at minimum wage.

Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by e_i_pi_2 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:34PM (#34248670)
Yeah good clarification sorry, the price cap is the compelled part, not the original loan decision
Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by Nextgrid on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:01PM (#34248138)
Only if part of that transaction involves non-material things such as personal data. If you accept actual payments in money, you are welcome to refuse service to anyone. The solution is easy and straightforward.
Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by mpweiher on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:27PM (#34248552)
Nope, Facebook is free not to provide those services.

They just aren't allowed to provide them by spying on you.

Re:Meta prohibited from using personal data for advertisement by 411111111111111 on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @12:01PM (#34248145)
> In a capitalist society, we should be able to set the price for something that we own.

Congrats, you just legalized slavery with that genius idea.

There have to be limits on everything. You just disagree with the chosen line.