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Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by Fargren on Sunday January 01, 2023 @01:23PM (#34209051)
I have a question that this is probably not the best forum for:

I don't run, but know plenty of people who do. Everyone is running what I would call marathon-style, by which I mean their goals are measured in how far they can reliably run/ how fast they can do a relatively long distance, 5K being the lower bound.

To me, running shorter distances very fast seems just cooler and more exciting, say 500 meters. 100 meters seems a bit much as it's over very fast.

Why isn't this kind of running nearly as popular? And how would one get into that, rather than long distance running?

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by loeg on Sunday January 01, 2023 @01:40PM (#34209263)
Sprints are a fairly popular competitive event. It's part of track and field. 100/200/400 meters are all common sprint disciplines. 800 is sort of a sprint discipline. These competition distances are too short to provide much training benefit and you can't train at race effort 100% of the time. Competitive sprinters do a lot of volume (i.e., miles) at slower paces in addition to a lot of weight training.
Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by igouy on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @04:14PM (#34251763)
> These competition distances are too short to provide much training benefit

?

"A typical Zátopek workout was 5×200, 20×400, 5×200 with 200m jogs in between. Over the years Zátopek increased his training load to include more and more repetitions getting up to 20×200, 40×400, 20×200 with 200 jogs for a workout."

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by sw030695 on Sunday January 01, 2023 @01:37PM (#34209219)
5km is considered a short distance run. Within a few weeks, it's something that should be achievable in sub-20/25 minutes.

In the UK, there's a volunteer led organisation called parkrun which hosts 5km runs/races in over 1000 parks around the country every Saturday. It's quite popular. My local race consistently get 300+ entrants each week. Worth checking out: https://www.parkrun.org.uk/

5km, 10km, half marathon and marathon are the main running distances. Less than 5km is generally stuff run on athletics tracks, which falls under athletics.

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by gghhzzgghhzz on Sunday January 01, 2023 @03:39PM (#34210610)
> Within a few weeks, it's something that should be achievable in sub-20/25 minutes.

I wish it was that easy.

I trained hard for a year and barely made it under 24.

I guess it depends on age and if you are carrying around a bit of extra weight.

5K is a wonderful distance though. You can walk it in an hour, walk / jog it in 40, jog it in 30 .. then a whole world of gradual improvements and mind games open up to get you from there to 20 mins.

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by aembleton on Sunday January 01, 2023 @06:16PM (#34212158)
I've been running for years and my parkrun PB is just over 25 minutes, but I am also very overweight. I think, after a few weeks of Couch to 5K, getting anything under 35 minutes would be a big achievement.
Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by jhellan on Sunday January 01, 2023 @01:38PM (#34209238)
It's just so much easier to improve your range than your speed.
Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by mattlondon on Sunday January 01, 2023 @01:43PM (#34209295)
Short distances are likely anaerobic, so a different kind of exercise from longer periods of exercise.

Anaerobic is evolved (as far as I know) as the "panic stations" exercise when it is 110% percent do-or-die situation and your body starts using inefficient no-oxygen metabolism because you need the extra energy to escape the chasing bear or whatever. It causes lots of lactic acid build up that hurts afterwards, and doing it a lot supposedly causes muscle issues unless you spend a lot of time warming down afterwards to help break it down.

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by andness on Sunday January 01, 2023 @01:50PM (#34209379)
Before I started running myself I remember looking at Marathon runners and thinking "Oh they are going so slow, it's just a matter of enduring it". And then I started running myself and realized that the professional Marathon runners are basically running at a pace that feels like sprinting to me.

And that's why I don't try 1500 or 3000m distances. They are just really, really fast and unbelievably painful. A few times a year I might do a 3K as fast as I can, and I dread it. Maintaining a near sprint pace for 10-12 minutes is just crazy hard.

Also, almost every time I get some kind of injury it's because I'm doing a high intensity (fast) run.

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by igouy on Sunday January 01, 2023 @06:15PM (#34212149)
Try 4x4 minute interval training.

This video gives a quick summary —

https://vimeo.com/75764170

Here's the evidence based exercise advice —

https://www.ntnu.edu/cerg/advice