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Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by mnky9800n on Saturday December 31, 2022 @08:48PM (#34202752)
Feel free to provide a substantive description of how it really works.

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal...

Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by gghhzzgghhzz on Saturday December 31, 2022 @09:02PM (#34202827)
I don't know anything about US states, but we have the same arguments here in the UK.

Living outside London, there's nothing I can do in my daily life that doesn't result in a net transfer of wealth from my self, or from the public domain, into the private sector and therefore into London.

Every private or public interaction I have has been financialised. be that being forced to keep a car, having children in school, getting sick, renting or owning a house.

I could go to toilet in the middle of the park and that would result in net movement of wealth to London and offshore (someone would be sub-contracted to clean the park).

Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by ars on Saturday December 31, 2022 @09:47PM (#34203077)
You can't eat money. Those states you call "grifters" provide the food you eat, and the resources you need.

The dollar value of those things isn't high - financial and other services are "expensive", but ultimately useless, they just move money in a circle, but don't do anything to keep people alive and well.

Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by mnky9800n on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:05PM (#34203167)
The states that have high GDP typically have healthy food production so I don't really understand your argument.

https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2016/05/25/know-where-your-f...

Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by ars on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:53PM (#34203417)
Really? In an argument about money versus food you're giving me a map denominated in dollars?
Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by astrange on Sunday January 01, 2023 @03:22PM (#34210454)
Mississippi doesn’t produce your food unless you eat a lot of yams and catfish. They might make your car.
Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by xyzzyz on Saturday December 31, 2022 @10:27PM (#34203284)
The “federal dependency” metric you linked is extremely misleading, so much so that I cannot seriously believe it is a honest mistake rather than a deliberate deception. Quoting my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33796536

> for example, according to their methodology, a state that collects $1k in taxes per capita, and gets $4k from federal government, while spending $5k per capita, is more dependent on federal government than a state that collects $10k in taxes, gets $10k from feds and spends $20k, which is absurd.

Re:Croatia to switch to euro, enter passport-free Schengen zone by loeg on Sunday January 01, 2023 @01:17PM (#34208976)
For example, it fully ignores the large transfer of money from the federal government to government employees in Blue eastern seaboard states. The fed is a huge employer in many blue states. See also other methodological criticisms in this thread (e.g., its criteria for dependency is just wrong -- should be absolute Fed dollars spend per capita, but is instead percentage of spend). It also ignores the benefits to higher fed tax-paying states of having the lower-paying states in the union, which are not captured solely in tax flows.