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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by 11235813213455 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @03:13PM (#34177319)
You can't compare different times, not trying to downplay what Pelé did, but there is surely more density now, so statistically harder to do the same
Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by dinkumthinkum on Thursday December 29, 2022 @03:18PM (#34177373)
As Kasparov said about comparing players like Kobe to Jordan or Carlson to himself, it is difficult because they later players had the benefit of being able to study them earlier ones.
Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by agumonkey on Thursday December 29, 2022 @03:31PM (#34177542)
I don't know how to call this blend of virginiality and pioneering. Being both breaking barriers when there's a lot of barriers to break in a way.
Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by Tams80 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @07:41PM (#34180143)
Low-hanging fruit is the somewhat derogatory term.
Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by grogenaut on Friday December 30, 2022 @12:56AM (#34182279)
yet no one else picked it... to me it's often derogatory to the environment.
Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by clairity on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:24PM (#34178181)
let's poor one out for kobe here since his obituary was flagged off hn at the time.
Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by rafaelero on Thursday December 29, 2022 @06:34PM (#34179584)
Sure you can. Absolute quality of soccer players may have changed, but relative performance probably have not. That's what makes Pelé impressive: how good he was relative to his peers. No soccer player nowadays reach that same level.