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Re:Vandals Destroy 30k-Year-Old Indigenous Cave Drawings in ... by akudha on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @08:26PM (#34156389)
I dunno, if I had a property with art that is 10,000 years old, I will try my best to preserve it. Regardless of whether they were made by my ancestors or not, because it doesn’t matter.

It was made by humans. So in a way, they are my ancestors, whether they spoke French or some other language doesn’t matter to me

Re:Vandals Destroy 30k-Year-Old Indigenous Cave Drawings in ... by aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @08:36PM (#34156458)
The point is you’re in the enlightened minority.
Re:Vandals Destroy 30k-Year-Old Indigenous Cave Drawings in ... by goodSteveramos on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @10:54AM (#34162203)
No most Europeans, including those in Australia care deeply about cultural preservation. In this case every European involved, the government, media and owner of the land all do. The odd thing is how the aboriginal people have done nothing to preserve this art for thousands of years. I would be curious to know if the previous vandals mentioned in TFA were leaving European or aboriginal names behind. One of the complaints the aboriginals had was lack of access to the cave. Europeans may be the ones more interested in preserving the ancient markings, the non-Europeans may be the ones more interested in making their own. Can anyone blame them?
Re:Vandals Destroy 30k-Year-Old Indigenous Cave Drawings in ... by 8note on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @03:21PM (#34165425)
Europeans everywhere care mostly about owning and profiting off of artwork, preservation of a work is important insofar as it allows Europeans to hoard the art and sell it, or grant prestige to their museums and galleries compared to other museums and galleries.

The cultural preservation is utterly unwanted - that's why things like the Benin bronzes have been forever broken and split up amongst Europeans in pieces, rather than retained as the one cultural work of being a history book for people to actually use in benin.

The same happens with Europeans in British Columbia. Rather than cultural preservation, the Europeans put totem poles on metal brackets to make sure they stay up forever and will never fall down, removing the intended time component of falling down, decaying, and being made anew. The intention of Europeans is to remove the cultural component and traditions, and turn it into an ownable artifact.

Re:Vandals Destroy 30k-Year-Old Indigenous Cave Drawings in ... by goodSteveramos on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @03:32PM (#34165569)
How was the Australian government profiting from installing security measures at the prehistoric cave art in TFA? I agree Europeans value history and sometimes see things as too static, but this is because Europeans are a thoughtful and sentimental people not because we are somehow profiting from putting delicate cave artifacts behind a gate.
Re:Vandals Destroy 30k-Year-Old Indigenous Cave Drawings in ... by incompatible on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @09:03PM (#34156652)
Out of curiosity, what would you do, put an electric fence and surveillance cameras around it?
Re:Vandals Destroy 30k-Year-Old Indigenous Cave Drawings in ... by dannyw on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @09:05PM (#34156666)
It's a hypothetical, but a couple cameras and a sign letting people know the area is under surveillance will probably do.
Re:Vandals Destroy 30k-Year-Old Indigenous Cave Drawings in ... by quietbritishjim on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @09:15PM (#34156741)
According to the article:

> The vandals forced their way past barbed wire and dug under a steel gate

so I doubt cameras and a sign sign would've deterred then.

Re:Vandals Destroy 30k-Year-Old Indigenous Cave Drawings in ... by autoexec on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:31PM (#34178975)
In fairness, that same article suggests cameras would have helped.

> “The failure to build an effective gate, or to make use of modern security services, such as wildlife monitoring cameras that operate 24/7, has in many ways allowed this vandalism to occur,”