Re:All About USB-C: Illegal Adapters
by gumby on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @02:50PM
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The way USB C is designed you have to go out of your way to make that happen. I believe you (!) but I'm not sure how I could build a device to behave that way. Could it be due to a weirdly noncompliant power adaptor?
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That device, the speaker in this case, is missing the pull-down (Rd) resistors on CC1 and CC2 to say that it's happy to get 5v@500ma when connected using a USB-C to USB-C cable. Those resistors aren't needed for signaling when using a USB-C to USB-A cable, which is why that works.
https://community.silabs.com/s/article/what-s-the-role-of-cc...
Re:All About USB-C: Illegal Adapters
by RobotToaster on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @03:36PM
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So they saved a fraction of a cent per unit on two resistors?
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No, it’s the peripheral device. There were initial confusions among bootleg/hacky manufacturers such as:
- whether CC pins are to be handled by the cable or by the device,
- whether added pins are for insertion detection or for protocol use by the host,
- which pins are to be pulled down or left NC for charging,
- whether USB-C is meant to be a “mobile” connector, or a replacement for the USB-A connector, or how soon the replacement is to occur.
As the result, there were some devices that has a USB-C input but only works with an A to C cable.
I’ve got a pair of cheap Bluetooth headphones that do that too — they only work with a usb a to c cable, not with a proper usb c power supply and cable.
Re:All About USB-C: Illegal Adapters
by TulliusCicero on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @03:09PM
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I have a retro games portable that behaves the same way.