The Tipping Point: How France Changed the Tides of the American Revolution

Re:The Tipping Point: How France Changed the Tides of the Am... by odd_perfect_num on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @01:06AM (#34145687)

Does anyone remember where the longest siege ever in history was waged?

Hint: It was in the American Revolution.

Second hint: Not Yorktown or Boston.

Answer: Correct! The siege of Gibraltar. Undertaken by France and Spain, the (largely inept) siege lasted more than 3.5 years and delayed the end of the war long past Yorktown.

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Re:The Tipping Point: How France Changed the Tides of the Am... by defrost on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @01:11AM (#34145710)

Only three and half years?

That doesn't even make the top three IIRC.

The Siege of Ceuta, and the Siege of Candia were both 20+ years.

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Re:The Tipping Point: How France Changed the Tides of the Am... by random314 on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @01:33AM (#34145830)

I wonder if the ongoing siege of Gaza counts? Counting 15 years. Or does it not count without any active fight back OR because Gaza is a part of Israel and thus Israel has laid a siege on itself?

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Re:The Tipping Point: How France Changed the Tides of the Am... by whearyou on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @01:36AM (#34145853)

Not a siege in any sense. What sieges not only allow the besieged to conduct import/export but actively pay for the besieged’s supplies?

Leave the ideology somewhere else

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Re:The Tipping Point: How France Changed the Tides of the Am... by gomoboo on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @04:36AM (#34147073)

Which ideology are you referring to here? I don’t see one in their comment.

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Re:The Tipping Point: How France Changed the Tides of the Am... by sofixa on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @04:13AM (#34159067)

It's a thinly veiled "every criticism of Israel is antisemitism".

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Re:The Tipping Point: How France Changed the Tides of the Am... by euler5050 on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @05:25AM (#34147381)

Does it matter if some supplies are let through if the end result of attrition is still achieved?

"Cases of child malnutrition double in Gaza because of blockade" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1172086/

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Re:The Tipping Point: How France Changed the Tides of the Am... by odd_perfect_num on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @10:04PM (#34157050)

Thanks for the correction. It looks like it was the longest siege ever against the British. Certainly a massive qualifier there I forgot.

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Re:The Tipping Point: How France Changed the Tides of the Am... by sofixa on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @02:40AM (#34146249)

Even the Siege of Sarajevo (if you want to talk about a pure land siege excluding naval blockades) is 3 years and 10 months.

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