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Re:Facebook increased satisfaction and usage by sending fewe... by kryogen1c on Monday December 26, 2022 @03:27PM (#34141481)
> I'll never forget the open contempt Meta has shown for me as a user of their products.

Even better was when messenger split off from fb proper into its own app, but still showed a notification bubble with red exclamation marks (or some such, it's been a while) that you couldn't dismiss. clicking opened the page to install the messenger app.

I deleted my account.

Re:Facebook increased satisfaction and usage by sending fewe... by wincy on Monday December 26, 2022 @03:38PM (#34141591)
I uninstalled the other day when I started getting notifications when someone’s story is on my feed. On messenger. That’s not a message and there is no way I found in twenty minutes of digging to turn it off. Screw that.
Re:Facebook increased satisfaction and usage by sending fewe... by yojo on Monday December 26, 2022 @04:08PM (#34141900)
Agreed, this is incredibly user-hostile. As a pro-tip, you can get past it on web by telling your device to request the desktop website. They have a responsive design, so it’s actually quite usable. Just emphasizes how slimy the push to the app is, though.
Re:Facebook increased satisfaction and usage by sending fewe... by mattmanser on Monday December 26, 2022 @04:18PM (#34141987)
Worse still is that right now my web version is telling me I have 4 messages, but my desktop one is saying I have none.

So not only hostile but incompetent.

Re:Facebook increased satisfaction and usage by sending fewe... by fwn on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @05:44AM (#34147490)
> not only hostile but incompetent

A broken feature on the mobile version nudges towards app installation, a broken feature on the desktop version does not.

This means that there is some benefit for Facebook to not fix the mobile version.

If a bug persists and benefits the company, we should - by principle - never assume it to be a bug.

We see the same right now with reddit, where old interfaces slowly (and clearly intentionally) crumble away, permanently signalling to the user that it is time to switch to one of the interfaces with a higher ad density.

Re:Facebook increased satisfaction and usage by sending fewe... by gnicholas on Monday December 26, 2022 @06:59PM (#34143295)
Love the tip! For me (iOS/Chrome), this seems to briefly display the newest message but then it tries to load all prior messages with that person. Am I doing something wrong? At least I can now see who sent the message!
Re:Facebook increased satisfaction and usage by sending fewe... by yojo on Monday December 26, 2022 @07:34PM (#34143500)
Huh, strange. On iOS/Safari, tapping the messenger icon then requesting the desktop site takes me to my messages inbox. Surprising that it varies between browsers.
Re:Facebook increased satisfaction and usage by sending fewe... by gnicholas on Monday December 26, 2022 @07:49PM (#34143637)
It does that for me, but then doesn’t display the latest message, or present a way to respond. Perhaps it’s because I’m on a 13 mini, which has less screen real estate? I tried rotating to landscape but that didn’t help.
Re:Facebook increased satisfaction and usage by sending fewe... by Lammy on Monday December 26, 2022 @05:06PM (#34142424)
Fun fact: the internal (bullshit) justification was that the Messenger install upsell counted as a message, and that's what the fake notification was for even though the same message wouldn't appear in the inbox on web.