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Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by rsj_hn on Sunday December 25, 2022 @07:42AM (#34126745)
All sounds pretty plausible. I would add my own:

- Bakhmut falls sometime in January. By the end of the year, everything west of the Dniepr is in Russian hands. Around the same time, it's clear that there are more than 200K Ukrainian dead and all Narratives of them winning the war or even maintaining a stalemate are gone, even from Western media. There will be no explanation for this change of Narrative, (the new Narrative being that US troops are needed to "save Ukraine"). People will just completely forget.

- A good chance that Russia/China sign an official mutual defense treaty against NATO, or it's leaked that such a treaty was already signed previously.

- Oil goes above $100 during 2023, and ends above $100 at the end of 2023.

- Syria, Turkey, Russia, and China will jointly broker a final peace agreement (signed in Moscow) in which Turkey and Syria find rapprochement, guaranteed by Russia and China, resulting in US troops finally being expelled from Syria, leaving the Kurds, once again abandoned by their allies.

- NATO will again bomb Serbia as Kosovo takes action against Serbs living there and Serbia intervenes. But it will not be a full blown land war, and some settlement will be reached. It will be an attempt to regain lost credibility, but will highlight NATOs acute problems with ammunition and personnel.

- Iraq descends into (more) violence as US forces come under regular shelling from Iran-backed guerrillas.

- Rapprochement between Iran and Saudi Arabia, as KSA moves closer to the Eurasian orbit, officially joining BRICS. The process of removing US bases goes into full swing, but they will probably remain there for a few more years.

- Winter 2023 will find Europe without sufficient gas reserves and finally facing the realities of their energy crisis. In the UK, this will be blamed on Brexit.

- As Ukraine's army collapses, Zelensky is deposed by someone closer to US liking

- Polish troops openly intervene in Ukraine, US "advisors" join them, along with more official regiments of Georgian troops and others. All suffer heavy casualties and prove inadequate to the task of saving Ukraine. A moment of truth comes to the US as to whether to launch a full scale invasion or walk away from the conflict. Hopefully President Harris will make the right call.

- US will go for one more try at a color revolution in a central asian republic. It will fail.

- The dollar will continue to be the world's most widely held reserve currency, but more and more global trade is settled on bilateral terms, skipping the dollar system entirely. This causes no end of consternation on the part of various money market participants.

- IMF/World Bank begins process of pulling out of Russia and China entirely. A new Eurasian development bank is setup to take its place.

- China completely moves away from zero covid and has a strong GDP print for 2023 - say 4-5%.

- China will open one new military base in Africa.

- Euro will end the year below the dollar.

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by mellosouls on Sunday December 25, 2022 @08:34AM (#34127098)
I'm not sure of your motivation either, but we all have our biases; those are powerful predictions, and it's a shame you've been hit with such a downvote attack.
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by TwentyPosts on Sunday December 25, 2022 @08:52AM (#34127222)
I would not be surprised if people downvote this sort of comment since—no matter the predictions—it seems like an attempt to piggyback off the parent post to make more people see your own post when just posting a top-level comment would have been more appropriate. Not trying to imply intent, though.
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by donkeybeer on Sunday December 25, 2022 @12:53PM (#34129371)
With use of terms like "President Harris" I think it is clear who is the more biased person here.
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by rsj_hn on Sunday December 25, 2022 @11:20PM (#34134548)
I intentionally made predictions that could be verified after a year but would also be minority views on this site, since repeating where I agree with the majority does not add to the debate. Sure, they won't all happen, but say, a 50% chance of happening or better, and made a sufficient number of them that I expect a lot of interesting predictions will take place. With the Turkey/Syria meeting, Erdogan has already been asking for it, and at some point Assad will give in. US troops there are surrounded and having trouble resupplying. For the mutual aid treaty, this is based on some under the radar meetings already taking place. That Ukraine lost 100K was inadvertently leaked by Ursula but really everyone paying attention knew -- for example they announced they needed to do a new mobilization of 100K to replace lost men. 100K is most likely a sever under-estimate. Presence of Polish, Georgian, and other troops in Ukraine is already well known, but they haven't been focused on in the West yet. The arrivals of 1000 dead bodies to Poland is forcing the issue into public debate. Other documents have also been leaked.

But this just goes to show how strong Narrative enforcement is in the west. Downvoting is nothing, you have people denied banking services, getting fired, put on no-fly lists, fined, and in Europe even imprisoned for speech -- for questioning NATO narratives. So HN downvotes is not important, it just reveals the various narrative enforcement mechanisms at work even here, but with a lot less at stake.

If this was a Chinese message board or Russian message board, I could make opposite predictions and be met with much more interesting debate and intellectual curiosity, as their information control mechanisms aren't nearly as sophisticated, and as a society they tend to be much more pragmatic and intellectually curious. The West is unique in being so ideological in the present moment - basically it is going through something similar to the cultural revolution period in China, and of course that was not a time to go against official narratives.

But in any case -- just wait a year. I'll be happy to compare my predictions in Dec 2023 against others'. It would be funny -- and quite appropriate -- if the some of the most interesting and accurate predictions of the last year were flagged on this site. But that's up to HN management, and they most likely have limited capacity to stand up to information warfare policies in the west and the hordes of professionals with hurt feelings flagging everything they disagree with. I don't take it personally at all, it's just a sign of the times.

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by _kbh_ on Monday December 26, 2022 @04:13AM (#34136034)
> If this was a Chinese message board or Russian message board, I could make opposite predictions and be met with much more interesting debate and intellectual curiosity, as their information control mechanisms aren't nearly as sophisticated, and as a society they tend to be much more pragmatic and intellectually curious.

How do you mesh this with the fact that you can and will be arrested in Russia for calling the war in Ukraine a war, or for even protesting with a blank sign?.

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by rsj_hn on Monday December 26, 2022 @09:51AM (#34138008)
I recommend finding better news sources.

As a simple example, there was an employee of a TV news station in Moscow that started screaming pro-Ukraine things on the air, on live TV. She was given a 100 ruble fine (for causing a disturbance) and released.

Meanwhile, people in the EU are actually imprisoned for supporting Russia. And of course Ukraine has death squads, and merely being accused of supporting Russia or being accused of speaking Russian is enough to end up in one of the filtration camps.

The two situations are not comparable at all.

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by _kbh_ on Monday December 26, 2022 @05:57PM (#34142857)
> I recommend finding better news sources

I’d suggest you find better new sources because I have seen the videos of the people being hauled off by the Russian police for holding a blank sign where as your example does not even exist.

Here’s an example

https://twitter.com/kevinrothrock/status/1502761903046774786

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by iron-s on Sunday December 25, 2022 @07:59AM (#34126862)
Those don't look like predictions, more like a wishful thinking of a person with close ties to russia
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by 0dayz on Sunday December 25, 2022 @08:16AM (#34126977)
As some other has pointed out this sounds way too disruptive to be true (how exactly would 200k deaths change the entire prospect of the war?).

Why would the US need to replace zelensky with a "puppet"? Ukraine wants US boots in Ukraine.

China recovery of their GDP is going to happen how? They got multiple issues systemically destroying their GDP growth (pollution, corruption, housing market collapse, over fishing, bad policies being enforced with no room for negotiation, etc. ).

Just to name a few.

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by JasonFruit on Sunday December 25, 2022 @08:45AM (#34127169)
Zelensky is already a US puppet, true, but I can see growing US discomfort with his willingness to see NATO dragged into direct warfare with Russia. If that continues, why wouldn't the US try to replace him with a new puppet who's less excited about actual WW3?
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by scrollaway on Sunday December 25, 2022 @10:24AM (#34127972)
> Zelensky is already a US puppet

Get this shit out of HN and back to RT, please. The US is not the center of Europe, and Ukraine is its own country.

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by JasonFruit on Sunday December 25, 2022 @11:17AM (#34128420)
We don't spend $115 billion on a country's war effort unless we are confident we're in control.
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by scrollaway on Sunday December 25, 2022 @12:10PM (#34128860)
You're spending billions on Ukraine (thank you, btw) because Russia's downfall is a net benefit for the US, and Ukraine is a US ally.

"Ally" and "puppet" are not the same thing.

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by phtrivier on Sunday December 25, 2022 @05:09PM (#34131962)
To be fair, when your survival depends on the military spending of someone else, the lines between "alliance" and "vasalism" starts to blur. It will (understandably) take some balls for Zelensky to ever refuse anything from Biden in the short term ; and in the long term, US will likely not refrain from using the "remember when we saved you from Putin" card (we've heard this in France for, what 50 years ?)

I'm pretty sure Churchill and De Gaulle were called "pupets of the USA" at some point, and they seem to have gone on _fine_.

That being said, it would be foolish from the US to not "destroy the Russian army for less than 5% of its defense budget, without loosing any soldier".

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by scrollaway on Monday December 26, 2022 @03:10AM (#34135732)
I agree, and of course I expect the US to use their "hey remember that time" card a few times, and I'm sure Ukraine itself (not just Zelenskyy) expects the same.

And for context, the US helping Ukraine to this extent pretty immediately means the US is loved in Ukraine, and the country will be pretty happy to follow the US in whatever for quite a while.

"Puppet" has other implications, though. A puppet, in its most literal form, is an empty face and body where you put your hand; it does your every move, everything you exactly want it to.

The implications of calling Zelenskyy the US's puppet are appalling. It implies Ukraine didn't choose him, rather that the US placed him. It implies Ukraine has no agency, but is just the "United State Border Office for Russia". It implies that Ukraine's biggest problems are whatever the US is concerned about; rather than what currently threatens its existence.

I'm tired tired tired of americans thinking they're so god-damn important in the world, that every other nation is a "puppet state". And they always say it with disdain at their own administration, as if that makes it okay. Not to say the US hasn't had puppet regimes installed, but fuck, it's seriously egocentric.

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by artembugara on Sunday December 25, 2022 @08:18AM (#34126989)
My predictions are all contrary to yours.
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by cf141q5325 on Sunday December 25, 2022 @08:44AM (#34127162)
So you predict the end of the dollar in 2023?
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by voisin on Sunday December 25, 2022 @07:57AM (#34126853)
> Around the same time, it's clear that there are more than 200K Ukrainian dead and all Narratives of them winning the war or even maintaining a stalemate are gone, even from western media.

I am curious as to what leads you to make this prediction?

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by cf141q5325 on Sunday December 25, 2022 @09:03AM (#34127298)
Not him, but from current predictions to 200k isnt that big of a jump. If i recall we are likely at over 100k dead servicemen (matching Russian losses) and something around 40k dead civilians.

Not so sure about such a drastic shift myself, but its a possibility if you think of it in terms of having overdone the whole propaganda aspect and inadvertently triggering a reaction. Especially as having observed it for the better part of the last year, i suspect Russia has been goating western media/commentators/politicians into especially brazen stuff. To give an example for especially brazen instances, there is the propaganda channel "Perun" on youtube who does a great job framing itself as open source intelligence. When it came to the Ukrainian Kherson offensive he however dropped the ball and transparently crossed the line from miss- to dissinformation when he

1) Congratulated the Ukrainian government on "preserving manpower" by banning military age males from leaving the country

2) Stating that the Ukrainian military was made up solely from "volunteers", thus the great fighting spirit

3) Congratulating the Ukrainian government on its willingness to take losses in Kherson with the strategic aim of worsening the Russian supply situation

Add to stuff like this the reports that got brazenly silenced like the Amnesty International report about Ukraine having soldiers positioned in schools and hospitals. The rational being that Russia knew about all prewar military positions in case you wondered.

Its the old problem of exploiting a bogey man to brazenly and overdoing propaganda. Once you overdo it, you might be in for a rude awakening about the extend of stuff that stops working.

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by SyzygistSix on Sunday December 25, 2022 @10:12AM (#34127872)
Honestly it sounds like they are sick in their soul rather than coming from a place of logic or insight.
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by xtian on Sunday December 25, 2022 @10:21AM (#34127948)
What’s your logic?
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by SyzygistSix on Sunday December 25, 2022 @11:18AM (#34128427)
Russia will not have a sudden reversal in capabilities. China is not going to abandon its strategy of hedging its bets to tie itself to a sinking ship all of a sudden. Iran and Saudi Arabia will not have a sudden change of heart to adopt a completely opposite position. Zelensky is already to US liking and Ukraine has shown itself to be capable rather than on the verge of falling apart.

Basically OP was positing a complete reversal of existing realities that all just happen to align with enemies of the US all of a sudden becoming more capable and deciding to band together. In reality political alliances, as well as military and economic capabilities, don't do screaming 180 degree turnarounds.

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by xtian on Thursday December 29, 2022 @07:00PM (#34179822)
But Russia is accomplishing their objectives, so there would be no reversal. Ukraine is holding on by pouring tens of billions of dollars worth of Western armaments into the conflict (which are coming slower and slower), not to mention the lives of servicemen.
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by r_hoods_ghost on Sunday December 25, 2022 @07:50AM (#34126803)
It's not a very optimistic picture is it? Definitely feels like we're heading in to one of those "things are going to get worse before they get better" periods
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by SyzygistSix on Sunday December 25, 2022 @10:14AM (#34127884)
This is optimistic from OP's point of view.
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by danmaz74 on Sunday December 25, 2022 @08:49AM (#34127198)
LOL at Saudi Arabia and Iran rapprochement. It's more likely that Putin wins the peace Nobel prize.
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by odiroot on Sunday December 25, 2022 @09:06AM (#34127323)
This sounds like you're reading a lot of Tom Clancy. Maybe too much.

Or as other commenter said, sympathising with everything that's against the "bad Amis".

Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by kspacewalk2 on Sunday December 25, 2022 @09:51AM (#34127685)
With top notch analysis like this, you should consider claiming a salary from the fifth directorate of the Federal Security Service. This is just the kind of stuff that'll allow them to continue building on their stellar track record of 2022!
Re:Ask HN: What are you predictions for 2023? by cf141q5325 on Sunday December 25, 2022 @10:24AM (#34127971)
I am sure they are also willing to pay big rubles for people sabotaging the ability of western countries to have meaningful debates and discussions. Messing with the reality finding mechanism of your opponent is as good as it gets during wartime. And that is most effective if you overdrive the narratives people already believe.