Most people you'll meet on HN are of the kind capable of self motivation to a high degree that makes long and involved projects possible if there's interest in something, even if it takes substantial extra learning to get there.

Thing is, I suspect most people in general aren't like that. They just sort of exist, not knowing what they even want to learn or try to avoid learning if at all possible. You can see this very clearly in university students that pick prof given bachelor thesis titles by what seems easiest vs. those that come up with their own. Or just school project work in general.

> I suspect most people in general aren't like that. They just sort of exist, not knowing what they even want to learn or try to avoid learning if at all possible.

There is a saying about this: You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.

So what if there are people like that? It is not like everyone must learn. If they don’t want to they don’t have to.

Well believe it or not, primary education is mandatory by law in most of the world. So they sorta have to and the system must be designed to cater to all, unfortunately.

Now we are just talking by each other. Previously you were talking about university students picking easy thesis topics. I reacted to that, and now you are talking about primary education.

These two are very different contexts.

I never programed a game onto my TI-8x but I somehow got a few dozen installed on there. There are different degrees of self-motivation, especially when the motivator is how boring school lectures are.