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Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by gadders on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @07:03AM (#34064735)
Why didn't it die when it was an echo chamber for the alt-left? Are you saying that the alt-left is more numerous, or more acceptable to advertisers?
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by forgotusername6 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @07:08AM (#34064783)
What is the alt left?
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by gadders on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @07:16AM (#34064860)
Antifa members, NYT journalists, AOC stans etc etc.
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by shanebellone on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @07:42AM (#34065071)
I'm thankful stupid identifies itself.
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by gadders on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:13AM (#34066967)
We are indeed lucky.
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by shanebellone on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:25AM (#34067142)
Touche.
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by mcv on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @09:16AM (#34066180)
NYT isn't that left, is it? It always comes across to me as mildly conservative. Not Trump-stupid conservative, but definitely not far-left. (Mind you, I'm not a NYT reader, so I could be missing out on their left-wing content.)

Twitter before Musk was certainly not a left-wing echo chamber. It had plenty of right-wingers, middle of the road jokes, corporate accounts, etc.

Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by throwaway2729 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @07:09AM (#34064794)
Decent people
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by mbg721 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @09:45AM (#34066572)
"Alt" is just a way of calling out beliefs you don't like as outliers, hoping that will make them go away.
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by shanebellone on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:03AM (#34066800)
The alt-right will absolutely disintegrate in time. Education is trending up, religion is trending down, and archaic views die with those who hold them.
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by mbg721 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:24AM (#34067131)
Religion isn't dying; Christianity might be dying. What you're seeing is fashion, not progress. It's like when older people say "Oh, the kids are so good with technology," when mostly it's clicking around walled-gardens.
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by shanebellone on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:32AM (#34067255)
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by mbg721 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:37AM (#34067345)
Sure, casual Christianity is dying. But saying "Oh, I'm an atheist" doesn't mean that you lack a religion any more than Michael Scott yelling "I declare bankruptcy!" is a declaration of bankruptcy.
Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by shanebellone on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:53AM (#34067600)
Interesting perspective considering the majority of religious people (that I've encountered) preach without practicing or adhering to established doctrine.

Would you consider those people religious, casually religious, or not at all religious?

Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by mbg721 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @11:08AM (#34067851)
I'm using "casually religious" to mean "I go to church because my parents always did, but I don't really believe in that superstitious nonsense." Catholicism in particular is going through a stark divide right now, because the "Christmas and Easter" Catholics are no longer bothering to show up for Christmas or Easter. So at a glance, it looks like the Church is getting more conservative, but it's really mostly attrition.

But that's all outward religious practice; my comment was more getting at my suspicion that many human behaviors are effectively religion in disguise. Where do axioms come from?

Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by shanebellone on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @12:12PM (#34068862)
Where did religious axioms come from?

From those who sought to control through the theft of individual power and the consolidation of that power to a ruling class.

Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by Zigurd on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:36PM (#34070182)
If that sounds like an odd and artificial take, it is.

Atheists know what they are doing. Even, nay especially, the young. They actively reject superstition. The totally reject the white supremacist style of American evangelical churches as utterly disconnected from Christ-like behaviors.

So why claim they are unaware of what atheism means? That is meant to comfort the bulk of evangelicals who rely on preachers for their worldview.

Re:Elon Musk’s $44B education on free speech by shanebellone on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @03:41PM (#34072217)
Firmly agree with this.