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Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by qwytw on Monday December 19, 2022 @01:54PM (#34056031)
> As my history professor put it, "going to the Holy Land was an incredibly expensive endeavour reserved for a very few. There's no way anyone was going to waste it on young, inexperienced children".

While a Crusade made up primarily of children is not realistic. The 'People's Crusade' was a thing. During the first Crusade 40 thousand or so poor peasants and various religious fanatics including many women and children departed Northern France a couple of months before the 'proper' army left.

It wasn't pretty. Along the way they murdered thousands of Jews, sacked or attempted to sack multiple cities and most of those who survived the journey were eventually massacred by the Turks (according to some that's one of the reasons why the Turks were so ill prepared when the actual Crusader army arrived, they expected that all westerners were poorly armed, disorganized and had no understanding or proper warfare... )

Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by FormerBandmate on Monday December 19, 2022 @02:27PM (#34056458)
That's pretty close to what we think of as the Children's Crusade
Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by ekianjo on Monday December 19, 2022 @07:14PM (#34059768)
if I recall correctly most of them were enslaved even before making it to the Holy Land.
Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by qwytw on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @04:41AM (#34063723)
Yeah, they only got as far as Nicaea.
Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by PakG1 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @12:36AM (#34061972)
It is really weird reading this, it makes me realize that motivations and rationalizations of people who joined Jan 6 and similar events are really nothing new under the sun.
Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by logicchains on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @12:46AM (#34062037)
The motivations of people who joined Jan 6 are very simple: they thought they had been disenfranchised because of unprecedented anomalies during vote counting on election day, which their opposition made no effort to explain.
Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by hilbertseries on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:19AM (#34062261)
Literally dozens of articles were written about a red mirage and how the mail in vote which would be counted later, would skew towards the democrats.
Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by anfilt on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @02:10AM (#34062620)
I think it's mainly stuff like this: https://i.imgur.com/3pvKeLG.png

A skew is one thing seeing where one line eventually overtakes an other. However, discontinuities like that image definitely should be explained. The image above I think already has explanation. However, for some time after the election no explanation if I recall. So if one is seeing things like the above with no reasonable explanation, and they were already unsure about the about the election's integrity. It's pretty obvious to see why things like this would rile people considering the atmosphere leading up to election day.

Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by logicchains on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @08:41AM (#34080571)
In one case a collection of votes was delivered that contained over 400k votes for Biden and zero votes for Trump or the independent candidates. That is incredibly improbable verging on statistically impossible even if 99% of those mail-in voters supported Biden.
Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by mrtranscendence on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @11:31AM (#34082809)
Cite from a reputable source on this? I know there were stories of related things happening, but to my knowledge they were all bullshit.
Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by AmpsterMan on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @11:01AM (#34067732)
Why is the opposition to blame on this? There were dozens of articles written to explain the effect. Contrary-wise, why didn't their leaders explain the "unprecedented anomalies" themselves?
Re:Did Insurance Fire Brigades let uninsured buildings burn? by GendingMachine on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @08:47PM (#34075675)
What exactly would the opposition have to have done for you to not say they made no effort to explain?