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Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by phrom on Sunday December 18, 2022 @04:22PM (#34043602)
Funny you mention Windows and Office. Office is getting worse while moving to a subscription model, while Windows is getting worse by moving towards ads.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by paultopia on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:02PM (#34048316)
Although TBF office and windows have gotten worse with every version at least since the 1990s.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by vel0city on Monday December 19, 2022 @12:16AM (#34048768)
Yeah Excel 3.0 had much better cloud multi-user editing support. It really only went downhill after Excel 5.0 came out with this whole VBA nonsense in '93. Unnecessary bloat, really just showcasing the fact Microst doesn't know what it's users actually want.

Excel today is way better than the Excel I used in the 90s. I wouldn't trade it for a moment.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by andylynch on Monday December 19, 2022 @05:14AM (#34050459)
They ruined office with … removing Excel’s 64k row limit, better file format, collaborative editing and better data analysis functions?
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by paultopia on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:52AM (#34052708)
If you're using a tool like excel to work with data with more than 64,000 rows or analyze data, or if you're collaboratively editing a dataset in a non-version-controlled format... best of luck to you, I'll send flowers to your widow.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by andylynch on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @07:12AM (#34064822)
It’s great for what it does. You might be surprised at how your bank and accountant get stuff done.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by phendrenad2 on Monday December 19, 2022 @03:12AM (#34049704)
That hasn't been my experience. Windows 11 has more features any any version before it, and same goes for Office.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by janlaureys on Monday December 19, 2022 @03:26AM (#34049781)
More features is not a great indicator of quality.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by hypertele-Xii on Monday December 19, 2022 @06:00AM (#34050749)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_11

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Wi...

Support for Android apps sounds nice, but you can't even reposition the taskbar anymore.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by phendrenad2 on Monday December 19, 2022 @06:50AM (#34051054)
I'll gladly sacrifice the second list for the first list.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now? by Ylpertnodi on Monday December 19, 2022 @07:54AM (#34051479)
Funny, I wasn't thinking the same when I installed the Old Classic Calc[ulator].

https://winaero.com/classic-calculator-windows-10-creators/

How can you f* up a simple calculator on a very complex one?