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Re:Wheels up for Waymo as we expand our 24/7 rider-only terr... by wpietri on Sunday December 18, 2022 @10:43AM (#34038709)
Their top 3 revenue sources are ads, ads, and ads. (Respectively ads on their own properties, "Google Network" ads, and YouTube ads.) That's more than 80% of their revenue. GCP is 7.5% of their total revenue. Details here: https://www.oberlo.com/statistics/how-does-google-make-money

One of the interesting questions for me is where the profits come in. Android definitely started as a loss leader so that they didn't get shut out of the mobile advertising market. But I could believe that it's in the black now due to the Apple-like model of charging a slice of everything that goes through the phone. Google Cloud is definitely not profitable yet, but they claim they will get there: https://accelerationeconomy.com/cloud-wars/google-cloud-has-...

Re:Wheels up for Waymo as we expand our 24/7 rider-only terr... by wongarsu on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:01AM (#34038894)
Android probably pays for itself right now. But its primary purpose is forcing about 70% of phones sold globally to have Google apps pre-installed. And mobile ads, as you said.
Re:Wheels up for Waymo as we expand our 24/7 rider-only terr... by seanmcdirmid on Sunday December 18, 2022 @07:08PM (#34046166)
Is that true though? The Chinese market is huge, and even if most phones are running Android, they aren’t including google apps. But if we exclude Chinese android phones, I would guess that Google doesn’t hit that 70% mark.
Re:Wheels up for Waymo as we expand our 24/7 rider-only terr... by kranke155 on Sunday December 18, 2022 @07:33PM (#34046464)
Virtually all markets outside of the top wealthy western countries are Android dominated.

I’ve lived in UK where iOS is very common but also in Portugal where the average salary is 800 euros and virtually everyone uses android.

Most of the world can’t afford iPhones

Re:Wheels up for Waymo as we expand our 24/7 rider-only terr... by seanmcdirmid on Monday December 19, 2022 @01:12AM (#34049053)
That’s true, but China is 1.4 billion people with not much iPhone penetration either (relatively speaking). That’s 17.5% of the world, so getting to 80% with that handicap (google being blocked in china) seems like a huge problem.
Re:Wheels up for Waymo as we expand our 24/7 rider-only terr... by powerapple on Monday December 19, 2022 @02:03AM (#34049334)
It is not such a big problem as you would imagine. The money comes from businesses, not consumers. As far as I know, the US and EU markets have the highest value consumers, so even Google is outside China, it is making a lot money from Chinese advertisers. The biggest problem for Google is competition from other advertising platforms, I don't remember last time I searched for a product on Google to be honest.

I believe the core ad platform for Google is going to be YouTube, it is the only one I am not leaving now.

Re:Wheels up for Waymo as we expand our 24/7 rider-only terr... by jcampbell1 on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:07AM (#34038986)
Google pays Apple $10B a quarter as search revenue sharing. Chrome/Android are good deals on an alternative analysis basis.