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Re:Spacekaren.sucks by Philip-J-Fry on Sunday December 18, 2022 @07:22AM (#34037050)
Musk said the ElonJet account was allowed even though he thought it was a "direct personal safety risk".

He went completely against that and journalists that reported on it when he banned the account and the journalists.

Keep in mind that none of this was "doxxing". It's publicly available information what Elon's plane is and where it's flying. He just woke up on the wrong side of bed and decided to ban, perhaps to see how far he could push things and whether his "fans" would support him.

He then starts a Twitter poll to democratise the decision to unban the journalists. The result is to unban them now. He didn't like that result and did another poll, except with the news that he was doing it again, the poll was even more in favour of unbanning them now.

He's a hypocrite deciding what to do based on what some brown nosing fan tweets him or what he dreamt of that night.

Re:Spacekaren.sucks by charcircuit on Sunday December 18, 2022 @09:10AM (#34037764)
>Keep in mind that none of this was "doxxing". It's publicly available information what Elon's plane is and where it's flying

99% of a dox is taking public information from obscure sources and making it easily accessible in one place. Doxxing can be sharing public information about someone without their permission. Being public doesn't make it not doxxing.

Re:Spacekaren.sucks by nickthegreek on Sunday December 18, 2022 @10:44AM (#34038719)
The information shared was not from an obscure source nor was it from a site that wasn’t easily accessible. It was the mirroring of 1 piece of information from 1 location to another location.
Re:Spacekaren.sucks by charcircuit on Sunday December 18, 2022 @01:44PM (#34041134)
White pages are a single Google search away.
Re:Spacekaren.sucks by Brian_K_White on Sunday December 18, 2022 @10:47AM (#34038751)
If it's public it can be googled, and if it can be googled it's not obscure.

Argument is invalid.

This is absolutely not doxxing.

Re:Spacekaren.sucks by Turing_Machine on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:48AM (#34039478)
So if I used publicly available information (property tax records, court records, vehicle registration records, whatever) to post Brian K. White's home address, it "wouldn't be doxxing"?

Pull the other one.

Re:Spacekaren.sucks by Brian_K_White on Sunday December 18, 2022 @03:10PM (#34042462)
Correct.
Re:Spacekaren.sucks by Turing_Machine on Sunday December 18, 2022 @07:24PM (#34046371)
Yeah, no.

Pretty much every platform (including Twitter) considers that to be doxxing.

You don't get to make up your own definitions for words.

Re:Spacekaren.sucks by Brian_K_White on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @09:39PM (#34156910)
Public data is public, but actions are a different story.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Uxwbo7bhebMnLrpn8

(for the bystanders: there is no included letter or note, just this unsolicited package with no explaination and no known-to-me sender)

This conversation: 12-18

Sent: 12-18

Origin: anonymous fulfillment service

https://branchwarehousing.com/

So you have uncovered some never-was-covered public data from my full-real-name-middle-initial-and-all handle, and proved that some people out there are willing to mis-use public data, and that you are one of them, and I am not.

Strange point to want to make.

I wonder if HN has any sort of official stance on that sort of action @dang ?

Re:Spacekaren.sucks by snapplebobapple on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:09AM (#34039010)
Do you really agree that making the public location of Elon's plane more public and easily accessible is doxxing though? I get it if it was the real time location of Elon within 100 meters, or his personal house in a forum with the intention to do harm or something, but the location of a plane that narrows your location down to a city and requires government grade anti air missiles to realistically expect to take down while in flight? The increased security risk of the latter seems like a rounding error to me, which makes the justification for removal very suspect because the thing it does dramatically increase is the public knowledge of how much of a climate hypocrite the guy is flying as much as he does.
Re:Spacekaren.sucks by charcircuit on Sunday December 18, 2022 @01:44PM (#34041128)
Yes, I definitely consider it doxxing. Whether doxxing someone should be allowed is another question and twitter for years has decided that doxxing is against the rules and doxxers typically get shadow banned.
Re:Spacekaren.sucks by Turing_Machine on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:45AM (#34039454)
> Keep in mind that none of this was "doxxing". It's publicly available information

I keep seeing this.

Property tax information and license plate information are also "publicly available" in most areas.

That doesn't make posting someone's home address, or the make, model, and plate number of their car somehow "not doxxing".