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Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by jrsj on Saturday December 17, 2022 @10:07AM (#34028329)
Hadn't Starmer already replaced Corbyn by the last election? I don't think you can blame this on him. I don't think he's really the most unpopular element of Labour either. Even after most media was slandering him as an "antisemite" and all that other garbage because neoliberals have captured all of the institutions in the UK.
Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by ogogmad on Saturday December 17, 2022 @10:14AM (#34028385)
The accusations were partly based on him cosying up with terrorists, from Hamas, Iran, etc. Is it too much to ask that a candidate for Prime Minister should respect the Rule of Law?

There's also his support for Chavez/Maduro, his suicidally naive pacifism which helps the enemy, etc.

Oh, and the episode with the mural, where he was too stupid to understand why a picture of fat people with hooked noses oppressing "the workers" would be offensive to a certain group. And what kind of adult sees the world in that way anyway?

[edit] Whatever. Downvote me. You people will never win in the real world.

Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by jodrellblank on Saturday December 17, 2022 @03:31PM (#34031921)
Boris Johnson met ex-KGB oligarch and made his son a member of the House of Lords[1]

He said "let the bodies pile high" about his plan for COVID, a plan which ended up killing ~100,000 people.[2][2.5]

> "Oh, and the episode with the mural, where he was too stupid to understand why a picture of fat people with hooked noses oppressing "the workers" would be offensive to a certain group."

Is the certain group Jews? Were they offended by Boris Johnson's book with rude Jewish stereotypes?[3] Or his other racist public writings?[4]

> "Is it too much to ask that a candidate for Prime Minister should respect the Rule of Law?"

Is it too much to ask that the actual Prime Minster respect the law? Partygate, for example[5]

What's that saying "with Conservatives, every accusation is a confession".

[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62068421

[2] https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-pms-former-adviser-confi...

[2.5] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/26/ons-figures-sh...

[3] https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson...

[4] https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/jan/23/london.race

[5] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60124162

Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by fshbbdssbbgdd on Saturday December 17, 2022 @04:34PM (#34032481)
Is the goal here to make Corbyn look good by comparison to Johnson? The median voter seems to think they are both unfit to lead, so it’s probably not an effective argument.
Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by jodrellblank on Saturday December 17, 2022 @05:02PM (#34032702)
The goal is to refuse to let Conservatives leave that kind of spin uncontested.

Everything the comment accused Corbyn of doing leading to "you people will never win in the real world" was done by BoJo, and it didn't stop him winning in the real world.

Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by gghhzzgghhzz on Saturday December 17, 2022 @05:30PM (#34032954)
you should always ask the question. what was it that made it so difficult to elect someone like Corbyn, yet so easy to elect someone like Johnson?

That's the actual interesting question here.

Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by astrange on Saturday December 17, 2022 @06:57PM (#34033566)
Mostly seems to be that British press is entirely opinionated tabloids who choose to "find out" that a scandal happened a year later based on whether they like the guy it happened to or not.
Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by fshbbdssbbgdd on Saturday December 17, 2022 @05:18PM (#34032867)
Some of the stuff you listed happened after Johnson won (or came to light after his victory), and before he resigned in disgrace, so doesn’t particularly serve the point you are making.
Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by gghhzzgghhzz on Saturday December 17, 2022 @05:34PM (#34032985)
he wrote Seventy Two Virgins (the book having a character who loved money, had a hocked nose and jewish name) in 2004. he continuously wrote racist, sexist and homophobic comments in his articles since.

It was all out in the public domain.

It was the media's jobs to ignore this and pretend the main issue was one case where Corbyn liked a photo on facebook that he later claimed he hadn't paid enough attention to and apologised for (Johnson has never apologised or been called on to apologise)

Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by fshbbdssbbgdd on Saturday December 17, 2022 @08:00PM (#34033996)
I haven’t looked into this question before, but it’s fascinating to compare the second-hand characterizations of what Johnson has apologized for with his direct quotes: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson...
Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by gjm11 on Saturday December 17, 2022 @08:22PM (#34034133)
Downvoted for (1) complaining about downvotes and (2) "you people".
Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by petesergeant on Saturday December 17, 2022 @10:08AM (#34028336)
> Hadn't Starmer already replaced Corbyn by the last election?

No.

Re:The strange case of Britain’s demise by jrsj on Saturday December 17, 2022 @10:12AM (#34028370)
Yep, you're right. I guess all that felt longer ago than it actually was