Re:Ask HN: How to “subscribe” to comments in a specific post?
by hombre_fatal on Friday December 16, 2022 @09:21AM
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And most forums break down into toxic fights since the dawn of time. What’s the problem with his view?
On a forum it really is much better when you give your 2c and then forget about the thread than hovering over it intercepting every new utterance. Time to close the browser tab.
Re:Ask HN: How to “subscribe” to comments in a specific post?
by ctxc on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:28PM
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Most of its usage is on platforms where engagement is how they make money. Any kind of engagement. Considering flamewars, nitpicking and arguments are goldmines that capture user attention, it's in the platform's best interest to draw attention to threads via notifications.
Is this the right thing for HN? I don't know. But they've decided it's worth the trade off, I think.
Re:Ask HN: How to “subscribe” to comments in a specific post?
by jason-phillips on Friday December 16, 2022 @09:57AM
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> Dang thinks this basic feature that has existed in forums since the dawn of time promotes toxicity.
It lowers the barrier to entry, coddling and inevitably inviting the lazy, thus nudging the needle towards the lowest common denominator, which is ill-advised.
Re:Ask HN: How to “subscribe” to comments in a specific post?
by mikewarot on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:59PM
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If there were a way to add votes in other dimensions, this would be less of an issue. You could then weight a matrix to get a view of things tailored to your preferences without using 3rd party tools.
Examples of multi-dimensional voting:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603656085390270464
"My plane is not trackable without using non-public data (twitter.com/elonmusk)"
Up in Elon Musk, Twitter, ADSB, Politics
Down in Truth
There are lots of things that get lost when you are forced into a single dimension.
There is a HUGE gain, and that's the fact that it forces the community to agree on what an upvote or downvote means, at least it should.
It has often been unclear to me why things get voted the way they do. Splitting votes into many dimensions might fix that.
Re:Ask HN: How to “subscribe” to comments in a specific post?
by zzo38computer on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:55PM
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I agree; I would prefer to get rid of the voting entirely if it is limited to one dimension. If votes are available for many dimensions, then the votes might be good and useful; as they are, I do not like them and do not use them, and would rather have an option to use chronological display order. (If you can download the file on your computer and run your own SQL queries, then you can also make up your own criteria however you want to do. However, in such a case, it should need to support incremental updates.)
On a forum it really is much better when you give your 2c and then forget about the thread than hovering over it intercepting every new utterance. Time to close the browser tab.
the fact that something was used for a long time means only that it was used for a long time, and everything else is up for interpretation.
Is this the right thing for HN? I don't know. But they've decided it's worth the trade off, I think.
It lowers the barrier to entry, coddling and inevitably inviting the lazy, thus nudging the needle towards the lowest common denominator, which is ill-advised.
https://github.com/HackerNews/API
Examples of multi-dimensional voting:
There are lots of things that get lost when you are forced into a single dimension.There is a HUGE gain, and that's the fact that it forces the community to agree on what an upvote or downvote means, at least it should.
It has often been unclear to me why things get voted the way they do. Splitting votes into many dimensions might fix that.