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Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by fleddr on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @07:51PM (#33993363)
In the other thread I got a massive pushback for suggesting to wait with passing judgement on the suspension until more is known. The pushback being of course that the narrative that Musk is evil overrules any rational thought, thus you can fill in the blanks and assume the worst.

On this latest update, without a doubt that narrative will repeat. Regardless of the sanity of any rule, it has to be framed in the narrative that the man spawned directly from hell. Had any minority leader announced this exact same policy, people would be on the benches cheering and clapping for this very healthy rule that improves safety.

Poor emotional control and a total lack of critical thinking skills. Confirm with downvotes.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by tempsy on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:03PM (#33993486)
Elon now says he’s going to sue the developer https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

a billionaire with unlimited resources suing a 19 year old for using public APIs. no one should support that.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by fleddr on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:35PM (#33993830)
I do support it, actions have consequences. Using an API is not a defense. You can probably use an API to do untold damage to the world. It's not a neutral action because it's an API. Further, at 19 you're responsible for your actions.

Similarly, I support legal action against Musk in cases where his unhinged tweets do real world damage to people.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by someNameIG on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:10PM (#33993558)
And just the other day Musk accused Roth of being a pedo for disagreeing with him. Roth has been threatened and has had to leave his home for safety reasons since.
Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by KennyBlanken on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:17PM (#33993649)
Does Musk not remember what happened the last time he accused someone of being a "pedo"? Though US courts will be more sympathetic to him than UK ones were.

Oh, and we all know what it means when someone is publicly fixated on finding / bringing pedos to justice, right?

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by evancox100 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:22PM (#33993699)
> "what happened the last time he accused someone of being a 'pedo'"

You mean absolutely nothing? He won that trial

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by kevinmchugh on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:58PM (#33994060)
Vernon Unsworth sued in the US and lost. His lawyer was Lin Wood, who went from losing what seemed like an easy case, to proposing some of the more batshit legal theories of the 2020 election.

But Musk won, on the basis that he was making a joke. IANAL but I have to think that legal precedent that he jokes by calling people pedos means he can now call anyone a pedo with impunity.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by someNameIG on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:21PM (#33994256)
With Roth now though it's clearly not a joke.
Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by AaronFriel on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:04PM (#33994112)
I think it's safe to say Lin Wood is not a good lawyer.
Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by kibibu on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:19PM (#33994240)
I already think of him as Elon "The Pedo Guy Guy" Musk
Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by ioawenaw on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:03PM (#33993491)
Nonsensical comment. The rule was made to justify the ban of the musk jet tracker account, since the account was banned BEFORE the announcement an hour ago.
Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by fleddr on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:28PM (#33993772)
Answer these simple questions...

How do you judge this rule by itself, on merit? Would you have judged this rule differently, had Musk not be attached to it in any way?

The point being, you fail to separate actions and outcomes from the person. Since you already decided that he's an asshole and this narrative cannot be broken.

Had another person come up with this rule, then it would be seen as a cool, progressive anti-doxxing measure. Wonderful.

If you don't see an issue with this type of clouded thinking, then you've been fully indoctrinated in Twitter discourse.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by firsttimebigboy on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:04PM (#33994106)
Apply the same logic to yourself. You worship the ground Musk walks on and he can do no wrong. Everything he does has a reasonable explanation to you, but if someone else did it then it might not be so reasonable. You have been indoctrinated by a conman and are projecting your psychosis onto other, more reasonable, people.
Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by fleddr on Thursday December 15, 2022 @09:19AM (#33999841)
That's funny, because I actually dislike Musk and see some of his actions/statements as harmful.

So this assumption that I'm pro Musk is your limitation in seeing the world in a pro/anti-Musk simplistic binary.

You're a product of the culture wars. You think in binary narratives.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by firsttimebigboy on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @09:57PM (#34076137)
"I actually dislike Musk"

You say that but your other opinions say otherwise. It's obvious to everyone, like a child lying and thinking the adults can't tell.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by nickthegreek on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:04PM (#33994117)
The issue is Musk literally tweeted support of the account and said it was allowed to exist. Then banned it for existing. Then made up a rule afterwards. Those are facts, why debate hypotheticals.
Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by fleddr on Thursday December 15, 2022 @09:16AM (#33999792)
The issue is that you failed to answer any of the questions. Hence, you're unable to separate a person from an action. You must marry them into a narrative. That's Disney thinking.
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Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by fleddr on Thursday December 15, 2022 @09:22AM (#33999870)
Because the topic isn't whether Musk is an asshole. The topic is about banning a (re)publisher of information that leads to potential safety concerns.

If you think this policy is a good idea on merit yet a bad idea solely because it came from Musk, then you're clouded in judgement.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by teachrdan on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:00PM (#33993457)
This comment is completely in bad faith. You are literally saying that anyone criticizing this new policy -- which directly contradicts what Elon has promised in the past in regards to free speech in general and this account in particular -- is doing so only because they think Elon Musk is evil.

This is clearly a self-serving action that is hypocritical on the part of the new owner of Twitter. Please engage this story on its own merits, and not based on your own assumptions of the HN audience.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by runarberg on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:05PM (#33993516)
To be fair, a lot of us do actually believe Elon is evil. However one can still have valid criticisms of someone (or something) despite firmly believing that this someone (or something) is evil.
Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by fleddr on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:43PM (#33993900)
Except that I literally did not say that as that's not what the word literally means.

Further, Musk has never promised absolute free speech at Twitter, nor is this even feasible or legal. You're hearing random echos from random interviews and then parrot them into a wildly different contexts. You're all over the place.

Is it a self-serving action? Possibly, maybe even likely. And if it is, can you explain the problem with wanting to protect the safety of yourself and your family? Is wanting to live out of fashion these days?

To end, my point wasn't that you can't criticize the policy. The point was that the policy was not criticized. Musk was criticized. Had somebody else come up with the policy, people would be clapping.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by mlyle on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:56PM (#33994557)
> in general and this account in particular

He said:

"My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk"

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

Flipping around, without notice, a few weeks later... and banning all of the developer's accounts, including personal ones and ones that track NASA aircraft... seems slightly hypocritical and lends credence to the belief that Elon's actions are capricious, arbitrary, and impulsive.

Re:“We’ve updated our policy to prohibit sharing someone els... by moate on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:44PM (#33993913)
Tl;dr

“My take on another thread is perfect and rational and flawless and anyone who downvotes is an emotional wokemob idiot”.

Seems like a flawlessly rational take my dude. Def the sort of discourse you’re trying to “encourage”.