Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended
by nodesocket on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:28AM
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I don’t see it as the same thing at all. This is a personal privacy issue, not free speech. It’s the same if somebody tweets your phone number and address (hint somebody did that to me a few years back) I put an official request into Twitter and they denied it, just like the Twitter file leaks showed. At any rate, trying to connect dots on dissimilar issues.
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https://twitter.com/BillGatesJet
https://twitter.com/bezosjets
I guess Musk only sees it as an issue when it's his own privacy innit
Good catch. That definitely makes it look very personal.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended
by somerandomqaguy on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:18AM
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Gets even sillier: https://twitter.com/CelebJets has tweets for Taylor Swift, Jay-Z, Oprah Winfrey, Kenny Chesney, Tom Cruise, etc...
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended
by SketchySeaBeast on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:51PM
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Looks like Elon has decided to make it seem intentional now - Bezos' and the celebrity tracker are now banned.
Yeah, it does seem like it. TBH, I don't have a big problem with this, though I don't like all of the potential implications.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended
by Flipflip79 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:29AM
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No, this is publicly available information. Flight tracks are not private
Even the CIA flights of kidnapped people to the various black prison sites were public. Using that data, the Austrian Airfoce intercepted and escorted one of those flights out of Austrian airspace.
It doesn't matter if its publicly available. To aggregate the data in such an easily accessible form is an invitation to crackpots. Few crackpots are going to seek out such information unless they are truly dedicated from the get-go.
If that's your view on privacy, fine. But what about these accounts?
- https://twitter.com/BillGatesJet
- https://twitter.com/bezosjets
This selective ban is indefensible, obviously personal, with no ties to any overarching principals.
Maybe if Bill Gates and Bezos also asked for a ban they would get it?
He said at the outset he is most likely going to make mistakes. Any successful moderation policy will depend on the system he puts in place.
Why didn't he just take a poll?
Before ElonJet was suspended their pinned tweet pointed out that Twitter's acceptable use policy was that it was ok to republish data generally available elsewhere - which is exactly what this is. It would be illegal to operate the jet and not publish its location.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended
by emodendroket on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:09AM
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So we are imagining someone is dedicated enough to go to jail for the rest of their lives for some assassination attempt but not quite dedicated enough to look up information themselves?
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended
by rootusrootus on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:51AM
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Crackpots were already using FR24, or just their own ADS-B receivers if it was local. The twitter account is just for entertainment.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended
by chinathrow on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:09AM
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Not correct. FR24 does not show many many aircraft.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended
by rootusrootus on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:12AM
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Okay, ADSBExchange then. FR24 is definitely not the only ADS-B game in town.
Oh you mean like how Trump invited crackpots to the capitol? You seem to want to both ways.
I didn't even mention Trump. Someone has Trump living rent free in his head!
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended
by nodesocket on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:32AM
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So are phone numbers and addresses if you look hard enough, but Twitters policy “or they claim” is to protect against doxing and such right?
Flight plans are public, passenger lists are not.
I don’t see that as a fair equivalent - it’s a legal broadcast, it’s not obscured or private by any means. Every time that plane changes destinations it’s a legal requirement to put that information out into the open.
He just doesn’t like it, so goodbye freedom of speech.
Exactly. Pre-Elon Twitter was all about the need to censor information because of a supposed risk of danger. As the twitter files indicate, often this risk was not readily apparent. Accounts that track high profile people's travel plans is such an evident risk. If are not willing to apply your rule equally to everyone, you really are not in a position to be making these decisions.