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Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by mrtksn on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:23AM (#33984692)
The good thing about Musk claiming Free speech absolutism is that we can hold him responsible for it. He might be a free speech NIMBY but because he claims to support free speech, his actions that clearly contradict this claim have very heavy toll on his persona.

IMHO Musk has a real opportunity to actually make Twitter great, Twitter was in a horrible shape and no one was happy with its state and I hoped that he can fix it because Musk is a product person. Unfortunately every passing day I'm losing hope. Even if he can fix it as a product, it seems like he will bomb it as a community.

No one ever forgot the calling the diver pedo incident and his handling Twitter can severely damage his image.

There is a reason why people pay Musk thousands of dollars for features that don't exist or cars that are not well build and still don't go after him like people went after Elizabeth Holmes and I'm afraid he might eventually burn out his social credit and be judged promptly for whatever he delivers without a slack.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by lucideer on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:27AM (#33984771)
> have very heavy toll on his persona

His supporters are fanatical - none of his previous abhorrent actions have had a heavy toll, so it's unclear why this one should.

He is certainly receiving a large backlash to his recent actions, but I think that's more a case of people (outside of tech) who would've paid little attention to him before being forced to be more fully aware of his existence, than anyone who previously supported him thinking less of him.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by rootusrootus on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:56AM (#33985291)
There's a very real argument to be made now that remaining publicly in control of Tesla is bad for TSLA shareholders. The brand is going to suffer if he doesn't at least put a plausible puppet at the head of the company.

Twitter is already a lost cause. He wanted to create a more popular Parler. Probably it'll just end up in the same place with the same niche user base.

At least SpaceX has Gwynn.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by ceejayoz on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:38AM (#33985986)
> At least SpaceX has Gwynn.

This also seems to be reassuring to NASA.

"'I hugged her with a smile on my face, because I know she is running that thing. She’s running SpaceX,' Nelson said."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/spacex-leader...

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by creato on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:45AM (#33986104)
The bigger issue for TSLA is that Musk owns a lot of its stock and might be forced to sell it. A puppet won’t fix that.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by halfjoking on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:18AM (#33985682)
So let me list Musk’s abhorrent censorship actions:

-Bans people impersonating him like Kathy Griffin

-Bans people who share internal communications at Twitter

-Bans people who post sensitive information like his address, phone number or private jet location

-Bans a few militant Antifa groups

Is there anything else? Because I’m not seeing the abhorrent part, especially compared to pre-Musk censorship.

Why should I be outraged now? When epidemiologists were censored leading to unvaccinated being banned from society last winter, no one made a fuss about it.

https://reclaimthenet.org/twitter-reverses-censorship-andrew...

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by a_shovel on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:28AM (#33985840)
> sensitive information like his address, phone number or private jet location

One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't belong...

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by ben_w on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:42AM (#33986044)
Yeah, but IMO it's not that, that's all fairly easy to get at, it's this:

> Bans people who share internal communications at Twitter

Which I expect is covered by an NDA between the leaker and the company blocking the sharing of the leaks. I'd expect the same if someone at, purely for the sake of example, Blizzard started sharing internal content via World of Warcraft public chat.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by a_shovel on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @12:34PM (#33986805)
I think my joke's been misinterpreted. Sharing personal information isn't the thing that different, it's the private jet location that's different from address and phone number. Having your private jet tracked is not a problem that a normal person can have. I don't think there's a reasonable expectation of privacy in regards to that.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by ben_w on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:30PM (#33990024)
Oh! Well, in that case yes, I totally agree. And I did indeed misinterpret.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by notpachet on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:39AM (#33986001)
I appreciate that I'm not the only one out there with this song branded permanently into my psyche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZci3eOafK0

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by halfjoking on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @12:23PM (#33986676)
Yeah one of the things on my list almost ruined my life last winter.

As in lose my job and be unable to socialize because I need a vaccine passport to enter a restaurant. All based on fraudulent lies that I couldn’t expose because I was censored.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by IntelMiner on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:43AM (#33986076)
That's an incredibly biased view of Musk's actions

>-Bans a few militant Antifa groups

And this just smells ideologically motivated on your part, frankly

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by JoachimS on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:42AM (#33985030)
The problem is that if you do try to point out when he contradicts himself, you get banned.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by mrtksn on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:16AM (#33985648)
Twitter is not the only place where people hear things.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by JoachimS on Friday December 16, 2022 @01:51AM (#34011448)
And that explains, nullifies the problem with Elons behavior how exactly?