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Re:Fusion energy breakthrough by Livermore Lab by stuckinhell on Monday December 12, 2022 @04:25PM (#33960574)
People have been burned time and time again by scientists over hyping stuff in the last 10 years, then combine that with the replication failures over nearly every single scientific field. Then look at the extreme amount of business fraud in the last 10 years with places like Theranos and FTX

Hackernews is not infested with reflexive contrarians.

Hackernews has healthy amounts of skepticism and doubt. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Re:Fusion energy breakthrough by Livermore Lab by yummypaint on Monday December 12, 2022 @04:36PM (#33960761)
When people use the word "reflexive," they're talking about things like conflating business hype designed to attract publicity and VC capital with a press release for a major scientific paper from NIF. I don't think it's unreasonable for HN to hold itself to an understanding of these things. If you actually want to critically examine evidence then you must necessarily read the paper before posting.
Re:Fusion energy breakthrough by Livermore Lab by whimsicalism on Monday December 12, 2022 @05:48PM (#33961596)
Bodied, and deservedly so.

Bringing FTX into a discussion of nuclear fusion to justify skepticism is parody-worthy.

Re:Fusion energy breakthrough by Livermore Lab by stuckinhell on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @09:10AM (#33969059)
It's an example of latest in many high profile scams. If you think it's parody that's fine, but you cannot deny the public mood is souring on big promises with out big results.

FTX is simply the latest in a series of media empowered EXTREMELY high profile scams. You can easily put a thousand other different high profile companies or claims in there.

Re:Fusion energy breakthrough by Livermore Lab by stuckinhell on Monday December 12, 2022 @04:39PM (#33960805)
"reflexive contrarians" in the context here was being used a perojative rhetorical trick to broadly dismiss valid doubts people have about this research.
Re:Fusion energy breakthrough by Livermore Lab by yummypaint on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @10:32AM (#33970149)
What specific issue do you have with the methodology and why? What specific scientific criticism do you claim is being silenced? Merely feeling strongly about this work contributes nothing to the discussion.
Re:Fusion energy breakthrough by Livermore Lab by concordDance on Monday December 12, 2022 @05:20PM (#33961263)
Note that there's multiple bits of hype compounding on each other. The scientists hype it up a bit, the University PR guys do it a lot more and the popular press goes nuts.

The scientists are like 10% to blame here.