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Re:Splashdown NASA’s Orion Returns to Earth After Historic M... by bbarnett on Monday December 12, 2022 @08:59AM (#33954657)
the idea of access to space being solely the preserve of commercial entities is an uncomfortable one.

To be fair, everything else has been like this. The first railways were government funded, the first airlines (in most places), this is quite typical.

Then as things mature, as there can be a profit-motive, government tends to get out of the lime-light, and private orgs take over.

Space-X, as an example, is just that. And space travel is about to become mundane, common, normal. Just like air travel in the early 50s.

And this doesn't mean the government has zero power here. It can take over companies in time of war/national emergency, it can compel for national need.

Again, what we need to do... is realise that space travel is becoming like air travel. And I for one, would be horrified if all control to air travel was through governments only.

Re:Splashdown NASA’s Orion Returns to Earth After Historic M... by m4rtink on Monday December 12, 2022 @02:04PM (#33958730)
Well, there were certainly cases where companies pioneered something and government took over later - like railways in Austria-Hungary. The conservative government in Vienna did not thin these newfangled trains could ever make money, but handed out permits to private companies anyway. Then when it saw how bloody lucrative it is, it nationalized those companies afterwards.

And there are other examples, such as the East India Company having its own army, navy and effectively ruling a big part of India at a time.

Re:Splashdown NASA’s Orion Returns to Earth After Historic M... by rswail on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @06:12AM (#33982103)
The East India Company was a mechanism for the British Empire to spread its rule while maintaining "plausible deniability" about the capture of the wealth of the conquered land and people.

Air travel only began because the US Mail paid for airmail deliveries.

NASA only began because the post-war MIC needed to develop ICBMs.

Public education only began because industrialization required an educated workforce.

Re:Splashdown NASA’s Orion Returns to Earth After Historic M... by hobs on Monday December 12, 2022 @09:08AM (#33954733)
There's no way that's happening.

Air travel is one of the safest modes of mechanized transportation in the world, space launches would be among the least and probably wont change much in their overall reliability.

Re:Splashdown NASA’s Orion Returns to Earth After Historic M... by bbarnett on Monday December 12, 2022 @10:33AM (#33955715)
wont change much in their overall reliability.

This is a very, very strange assertion.

Airflight was incredibly dangerous 100 years ago. Yet now you claim it is one of the safest, thereby validating that technological improvements, and design improvements, can change safety.

Then you say, effectively "things won't improve" for "this other tech over here".

Which is it?!

My point in all of this is, while space travel was a monumental achievement 60+ years ago, it's simply not that big of a deal now. Endless commercial corporations now engage in the act, for profit, because there is profit, and because it is so commonplace.

And this trend will only increase, eventually leading to people actually being station in space (eg, the moon, larger commercial structures, mining, etc). This will lead to more trips, and for people visiting said structures for business, and on and on.

Just as with planes, this will become safer, more common, more regulated, more... normal.

What part of this iterative process do you believe will block launches from being more safe? NOTE: don't use today's technology as a blocker, please.