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Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 ... by viraptor on Monday December 12, 2022 @07:47AM (#33954091)
Some extra info: Aussies got vaccinated relatively easily on, but the protection gets weaker with time. This + barely about announcements about new vaccines / second booster (14M>5M drop) + new strains which are more resistant to the original vaccines are definitely messing up the numbers this year compared to the previous.

We're taking now with the benefit of knowing the future. The lockdowns kept the numbers low for a long time and vaccination kept the original strains away as well by the time we did the "mission success".

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Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 ... by sfusato on Monday December 12, 2022 @08:05AM (#33954229)
The "original strain" was already gone by the time Australia started vaccinating.

Input Australia on https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations and have a look for yourself.

Then again, we were always behind each and every variant, always following our tail when it came to it.

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Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 ... by viraptor on Monday December 12, 2022 @03:21PM (#33959709)
Unfortunate phrasing, i meant the pre-omicron strains rather than original, since that's when the effectiveness changed most drastically. Up to and including Delta we still got 95+% effectiveness against hospitalisation (https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/advice-...) and the omicron did not hit until late Dec '21. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/datablog/2021/dec/23/how-m...)

By December we were already just doing the long tail of vaccinations getting to that 95% in Feb (https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-inter...) So while I agree we had issues with the rollout, I don't agree "we were always behind each and every variant".

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Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 ... by wellthatsawrap2 on Monday December 12, 2022 @10:35AM (#33955754)
That's ok. Big pharma still gets paid for every jab, regardless if it actually works.
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Re:Australia: Excess deaths in 2022 'incredibly high' at 13 ... by collyw on Monday December 12, 2022 @11:25AM (#33956534)
Record profits for Pfizer, while nurses got a clap.
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