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Re:As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand t... by meta2023 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @06:43PM (#33948930)
There was a whole lot of fraud going on between Carvana (public) and DriveTime (private). It'll come out in due course.
Re:As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand t... by jsemrau on Monday December 12, 2022 @12:39AM (#33951287)
This well researched article maybe assists here. https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/767332-clastic/5627003-ca...
Re:As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand t... by smt88 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @06:45PM (#33948946)
Can you explain the nature of the fraud and how it benefited each company?
Re:As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand t... by jcampbell1 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @07:05PM (#33949074)
Drivetime is a privately held subprime used dealer group that lists their inventory on Carvana, which is a public spinoff of Drivetime. The CEO of Carvana is the son of the Drivetime owner. Plenty of room to launder profits via wholesale prices.
Re:As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand t... by djbusby on Sunday December 11, 2022 @07:34PM (#33949354)
This seems like wild speculation.
Re:As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand t... by geeky4qwerty on Sunday December 11, 2022 @09:34PM (#33950191)
In October 1990, García, then a Tucson-based real estate developer pleaded guilty to a felony bank fraud charge for his role as a straw borrower in the collapse of Charles Keating's Lincoln Savings and Loan Association.[4][5] Garcia "fraudulently obtained a $30-million line of credit in a series of transactions that also helped Lincoln hide its ownership in risky desert Arizona land from regulators."[4] Garcia spent three years on probation, and he and his firm filed for bankruptcy.[5]

In 1991, García bought Ugly Duckling, a bankrupt rent-a-car franchise, for under $1 million and merged it with his own fledgling finance company, and turned it into a company selling and financing used cars for sub-prime buyers with poor credit history.[5] Garcia took the company public on the NASDAQ exchange in 1996, trading under the ticker "UGLY".[6] In 1999, Garcia was involved in six lawsuits alleging he had "abused his position to profit" from a real estate deal where he ultimately acquired 17 company properties at a 10% discount.[5] In 2002, Garcia and the former Ugly Duckling CEO, Gregory Sullivan, took the company private and renamed it DriveTime.[7]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Garcia_II

Re:As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand t... by MrMan on Sunday December 11, 2022 @08:04PM (#33949575)
It’s probably dead accurate, let’s find out
Re:As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand t... by encryptluks2 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @08:15PM (#33949671)
There was people saying the same thing about similar comments regarding Theranos once.
Re:As Carvana crashes, used car dealers, not buyers, stand t... by meta2023 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @08:34PM (#33949794)
It didn’t benefit Drivetime at all, but father & son more than made up for it by selling off CVNA as it rallied to $370 last year.

Give it a year or two, it’ll all come out.