Re:Meditations on an inexpensive laundry basket
by maxerickson on Sunday December 11, 2022 @03:19PM
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Synthesized replacements (starting from plant stocks or whatever) will probably be cheaper at some point. Like some point in the next several decades, not in the far flung future.
Re:Meditations on an inexpensive laundry basket
by fbdab103 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @05:08PM
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That feels like it might be possible, but we would have to stop subsidizing corn in favor of plants with markedly better yields (eg switchgrass). That will require significant political capital.
Re:Meditations on an inexpensive laundry basket
by maxerickson on Sunday December 11, 2022 @07:40PM
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It would just require a market for switchgrass.
Re:Meditations on an inexpensive laundry basket
by Gare on Sunday December 11, 2022 @11:57AM
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It seems only 4% of the World oil/gas production is used for plastics.
Re:Meditations on an inexpensive laundry basket
by blamazon on Sunday December 11, 2022 @12:36PM
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Good lord, all the plastic in the world being four percent of oil and gas production is terrifying. Implying the rest basically ends up combusted into the atmosphere? The fact that increasing the percentage of oil and gas used for plastic looks like a good option by comparison turns my stomach.
Re:Meditations on an inexpensive laundry basket
by SV_BubbleTime on Sunday December 11, 2022 @01:42PM
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The wonder composites that make electric cars possible are all oil. Carbon fiber is hilariously not-green to produce. Make a tube out of oil and burn it over and over. Now make a car out of it with zero chance to recycle and talk about how green it is.
Two things to your post though. Yes, making things out of oil is probably better than burning it. But don’t mistake how much oil is used in the side-processes.
We will burn the oil one way or another. Until there is a better source of energy with better safety and density than hydrocarbons, we’ll use it all. If not in cars, in power plants, if not there in military, if not there in 3rd world, etc.
Re:Meditations on an inexpensive laundry basket
by omg_ponies on Sunday December 11, 2022 @04:50PM
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> The wonder composites that make electric cars possible are all oil.
I'm sure composites make electric cars better, but I don't think electric cars are impossible without composites.
Re:Meditations on an inexpensive laundry basket
by Tao3300 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @06:05PM
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Not sure how much winds up in cosmetics, cleaners, lubricants and stuff.
Re:Meditations on an inexpensive laundry basket
by wizofaus on Sunday December 11, 2022 @04:54PM
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The same was likely said of whale blubber 150 years ago.
Like it or not; we will use every drop of oil there is, one way or another. I wouldn’t bet against oil companies even if all cars were electric by means of a genie.