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Re:EU-wide maximum limit of €10K for cash payments by rosnd on Saturday December 10, 2022 @10:34PM (#33939797)
The seller claims they don't see the transfer on their end, who keeps the car?

Buying a car with a bank transfer is a great way to get scammed by someone selling the same car multiple times.

Re:EU-wide maximum limit of €10K for cash payments by thiht on Sunday December 11, 2022 @03:31AM (#33941355)
You give your bag of money to the seller. They take it and leave with the car. What do you do?
Re:EU-wide maximum limit of €10K for cash payments by rosnd on Sunday December 11, 2022 @12:37PM (#33945318)
Do you not think that straight up robbing somebody requires a different level of commitment than fraud?

The guy using a fake app to pretend that they didn't receive a wire transfer isn't going to end up in a fight, the guy robbing someone of their cash might.

Not only that, bank transfers do not protect you from robbery. You can be forced to make a wire transfer, just as you can be forced to hand over cash.

Re:EU-wide maximum limit of €10K for cash payments by bonzini on Sunday December 11, 2022 @01:05AM (#33940554)
I don't know what kind of prehistoric banking system exists in the US, but that just won't happen. The buyer has a bank transfer id and both parts can check the status with their bank.

There are also instant transfers that cost around 1€ of fixed commissions. They complete in about ten seconds after which the other side can check their account and the money will be there.

And finally you can use a money order if you really don't want to do a bank transfer and prefer paper.

Re:EU-wide maximum limit of €10K for cash payments by benhurmarcel on Sunday December 11, 2022 @03:28AM (#33941342)
Instant transfers are free in some banks already even.
Re:EU-wide maximum limit of €10K for cash payments by rosnd on Sunday December 11, 2022 @09:37AM (#33943564)
>I don't know what kind of prehistoric banking system exists in the US

I wouldn't know, given that I am European.

> The buyer has a bank transfer id and both parts can check the status with their bank.

Generally there is no quick and easy way to verify that the beneficiary has actually received their funds.

>There are also instant transfers that cost around 1€ of fixed commissions. They complete in about ten seconds after which the other side can check their account and the money will be there.

So what? There are lots of banks which do not support instant transfers, sometimes instant transfer money just doesn't show up instantly and there's very little visibility that end-users would have into that.

Re:EU-wide maximum limit of €10K for cash payments by B8MGHCBekDuRi on Sunday December 11, 2022 @09:04AM (#33943257)
> The seller claims they don't see the transfer on their end, who keeps the car

you, if you transferred the money.

the seller, if you did not.

Re:EU-wide maximum limit of €10K for cash payments by rosnd on Sunday December 11, 2022 @09:31AM (#33943526)
How could that work? There's no way to tell if the sender or recipient is being dishonest.

Another common scam involves the buyer using a fake bank app to pay for goods, seller sees the money transferred right in front of them but never receives it.

Re:EU-wide maximum limit of €10K for cash payments by benhurmarcel on Sunday December 11, 2022 @03:29AM (#33941348)
The seller claims you haven’t actually given him the cash, who gets to keep the car?