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Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by aradox66 on Friday December 09, 2022 @10:50AM (#33922619)
I'm a vegan who loves fake meats. I know they're not ideal. But I still end up eating way more vegetables, beans, etc as a vegan than I do otherwise.

I don't think any fake meat is really satisfying enough for most people to eat it the way some omnivores sometimes eat animal proteins (as the main food for most meals). But I suppose it takes all kinds.

Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by zoklet-enjoyer on Friday December 09, 2022 @01:02PM (#33924423)
Have you tried soy curls? I've been really getting into them lately. Soak them in some soy sauce and liquid smoke then air fry. Mmmm
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by barbazoo on Friday December 09, 2022 @11:05AM (#33922825)
The problem I think is we don't know how how to cook a meal from scratch anymore which makes any vegetarian or vegan diet suboptimal because of all the processed and overly packaged foods. Our lives don't allow anymore to wait 30 minutes for a porridge, 2 hours for a soup even if it's an async process. That's a prerequisite however for a healthy diet a lot of the times.
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by CaptainNegative on Friday December 09, 2022 @11:23AM (#33923080)
> which makes any vegetarian or vegan diet suboptimal because of all the processed and overly packaged foods

I don't get why vegan and vegetarian food are highlighted here. People eat plenty of packaged or highly-processed meats, too. If anything, most raw items that don't require cooking are probably vegan, and there is no shortage of low-prep ones.

Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by mcculley on Friday December 09, 2022 @11:11AM (#33922911)
Whose lives are you talking about? This seems to be a generalization based on a small subset of humanity or something.
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by mersenne on Friday December 09, 2022 @12:41PM (#33924145)
He's probably talking about themself and a few close individuals, likely also from the tech scene.

Remote work has made it easier than ever for many people to cook at home. Before the pandemic, meal prepping was a pretty convenient way to do it. A couple of hours a week can get you very far.

Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by pessimizer on Friday December 09, 2022 @01:05PM (#33924456)
Tech people are the people who are are working from home, and are most able to cook.

Barbazoo seems to me to be talking about the opposite of the tech scene, the 90% of people who don't have (or want to waste) an hour after work to cook dinner. Or even worse, take a half an hour away from sleeping every day to have time to cook breakfast, all for dubious benefit.

Will processed, quick foods hurt you more than sleeping an hour and a half less a day?

Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by mcculley on Friday December 09, 2022 @06:35PM (#33927956)
If 90% of people are not cooking, it is by choice, not because they would have to steal time from sleeping. Modern marketing is very good at convincing people to do other things with their time than what is good for them.

Some small subset might have to make hard choices about sleep versus cooking. Not 90%. Most are choosing something else over cooking.

Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by nverno on Friday December 09, 2022 @08:12PM (#33928677)
Right, if the average American spends more than a few hrs/day watching the tube, as commonly reported, they could easily spare 30 minutes/day to cook if they wanted.
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by moloch-hai on Friday December 09, 2022 @02:21PM (#33925409)
If it takes you an hour to prep dinner, you are either doing it for pleasure, for a crowd, or Wrong.
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by Gordonjcp on Friday December 09, 2022 @11:20AM (#33923021)
It takes a couple of minutes to make porridge. Pour boiling water over a bowl of rolled oats, let it sit for a couple of minutes, ding in the microwave for 30 seconds.
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by barbazoo on Friday December 09, 2022 @11:27AM (#33923130)
Talking about steel cut oats, raisins, nuts, etc. I like to cook them for a while :)
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by x0x0 on Friday December 09, 2022 @11:39AM (#33923308)
You need an instapot.

It won't make it faster (wall time), but it reduces your effort to virtually zero. Dump the steel cut oats/milk/water in, push the magic button, and come back in 25 minutes. I've been eating this daily for breakfast for a couple years and it's great.

No continuous stirring to prevent scalding the milk, no slightly burned milk welded to the bottom of your pot, etc.

The recipe I like, fwiw: 2 parts (I use 1/2 cup) Bob's Red Mill steel cut oats; 3 parts whole milk; 2 parts water. 10 minutes on high pressure.

Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by neuralRiot on Friday December 09, 2022 @04:23PM (#33926598)
Overnight oats are my way to go.
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by Gordonjcp on Friday December 09, 2022 @11:30AM (#33923181)
So, not porridge then?
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by barbazoo on Friday December 09, 2022 @12:17PM (#33923866)
Sorry, I might have used the wrong word, that's what we call it.
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by tmtvl on Friday December 09, 2022 @03:28PM (#33926089)
A nice almond milk frumenty with pears is always delicious.
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by jjtheblunt on Friday December 09, 2022 @01:58PM (#33925125)
i see "porridge" used differently in differing contexts. what do you mean by it here?
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by anikom15 on Friday December 09, 2022 @03:51PM (#33926334)
‘Oatmeal’ prepared in a rather unorthodox way apparently.
Re:Low nutritional quality in vegetarian meat substitutes by jjtheblunt on Friday December 09, 2022 @05:55PM (#33927526)
yeah i see Germans use Porridge but i can't tell if they're just using an English word from their language's recent cousin (i.e., English) or not...and i'm 1/4 German but not hip on lingo.