Re:Tell HN: IPv6-only still pretty much unusable
by bombcar on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:28AM
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Cellphones are the main driver of IPv6 adoption as it is; many countries you're behind CGNAT if you hit an IPv4 endpoint, but you go direct if they support IPv6.
Re:Tell HN: IPv6-only still pretty much unusable
by withinboredom on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:32AM
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It’s not that ipv4 space is exhausted, there’s plenty of it available. It’s that early on it was mismanaged to the point that people / companies were able to buy entire /8’s for basically nothing and hold them forever.
Re:Tell HN: IPv6-only still pretty much unusable
by IcePic on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @01:30PM
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Given the top rate* for handing out ipv4 some 10 years ago, every such "wasted" /8 would give you days to weeks before being used up again. What do you intend to do when those 2 weeks are up?
*) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion#/media...
Re:Tell HN: IPv6-only still pretty much unusable
by noipv6 on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @01:50PM
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the global burn rate was 4-6 weeks for a /8, iirc
but there are waitlists to fulfill, so...you're probably still right.
(tl;dr: "repatriate the poorly allocated legacy ip space" is a losing proposition)
Re:Tell HN: IPv6-only still pretty much unusable
by dang on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @02:15PM
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Single-purpose accounts aren't allowed on HN (they're too predictable and predictability is the antithesis of curiosity) - so I've banned this account. If you don't want it to be banned, you're welcome to email [email protected] and we can figure something out.
Re:Tell HN: IPv6-only still pretty much unusable
by gfaster on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:50AM
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Related anecdote, my (small) school had acquired a /16 way back and so today, every single device on the network gets its own public ipv4. It was an absolute mess for security (imagine a small army of first year CS majors setting up each a Raspberry Pi) but it was kinda fun being able to experiment with servers without having to worry about NAT.
Re:Tell HN: IPv6-only still pretty much unusable
by ehPReth on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @12:38PM
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they could just firewall inbound connections and have some sort of request/interface to allow certain/all ports whilst keeping everything lovely about public v4 though, yeah?
Re:Tell HN: IPv6-only still pretty much unusable
by mark-wagner on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @02:12PM
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A long, long time ago my (large) school had 2 /16s and a bunch of /24s and every device--including those in the medical center--got a public, internet accessible IP address. https://itconnect.uw.edu/tools-services-support/networks-con...
All cell-phones should have been ipv6 from the get-go.
Now if we could just go back in time and warn everybody about IPv4 address space being exhausted. And maybe the climate too while we are at it.
Seriously though, cell-phone adoption would make that a game changer. Hey Apple, sell it as an exclusive feature!