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Re:Tesla Semi, a Deep Dive by itsoktocry on Monday December 05, 2022 @09:44AM (#33866259)
>I see this all or nothing argument when discussing new stuff.

That's one way to look at it. The other is that you can't pretend that real, tangible, identifiable problems don't exist. And Tesla has a habit of ignoring those.

>Slow charging is only a temporary problem and as evolution of Superchargers has made quote evident to date.

What have the Superchargers proven? That under increased load the locations can become completely overwhelmed? Even with EVs having a single-digit market share?

I haven't met a single person in my neck of the woods that thinks waiting 30 minutes to "fuel up" is remotely reasonable. And that's state-of-the-art. We have a ways to go.

>In fact, Tesla Semi's range is 500 miles because it's right at the edge of how long a driver can safely drive non-stop and right before they are legally required to take a break, during which time they can charge the truck.

Let's wait for some real-world testing before making claims to Telsa Semi's range.

Re:Tesla Semi, a Deep Dive by paulmendoza on Monday December 05, 2022 @10:52AM (#33867216)
Most people charge at home
Re:Tesla Semi, a Deep Dive by oxplot on Monday December 05, 2022 @11:00AM (#33867306)
> And Tesla has a habit of ignoring those.

Tesla definitely has a habit of ignoring problems, but in all cases I'm aware of, they're non fundamental issues that can be addressed along the way. They see the bigger picture and aren't focusing on non-crucial details.

> What have the Superchargers proven? That under increased load the locations can become completely overwhelmed? Even with EVs having a single-digit market share?

I'm referring to speed of Superchargers increasing over time. Newer superchargers don't have the drop in charging speed problem when two adjacent stalls are used at the same time.

> I haven't met a single person in my neck of the woods that thinks waiting 30 minutes to "fuel up" is remotely reasonable. And that's state-of-the-art. We have a ways to go.

Well your neck of the wood aren't the current intended audience. Thanks to everyone else who's buying the cars at their current state. They are enabling a future where your neck of the wood can have cars that charge in a few minutes. Oh, and I'm one of them. You're welcome.

> Let's wait for some real-world testing before making claims to Telsa Semi's range.

OK.

Re:Tesla Semi, a Deep Dive by olyjohn on Monday December 05, 2022 @03:42PM (#33871624)
> Oh, and I'm one of them. You're welcome.

Holy shit. This is some top-level smug right here.

Re:Tesla Semi, a Deep Dive by randomcarbloke on Monday December 05, 2022 @11:24AM (#33867642)
they make consumer products and should know to stay in their lane, this won't take off, or will be beaten by other players
Re:Tesla Semi, a Deep Dive by Damogran6 on Monday December 05, 2022 @12:45PM (#33868908)
oooor, they'll ignore the naysayers and make bank eventually, if they don't run out of funding before that. (Or don't go under because their CEO can be a raving nutbar sometimes.)