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Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by hobs on Monday December 05, 2022 @08:28AM (#33865322)
First thing on signup: YOU HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL IDENTITY VALIDATION, yes, even though we took your home address and credit card and phone number already.

No thanks, I'll keep using Digital Ocean or someone who doesn't make me jump through hoops.

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by danw1979 on Monday December 05, 2022 @08:36AM (#33865422)
A one-off hoop that maybe helps to keep spammers off their systems ? Fine by me.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by hobs on Monday December 05, 2022 @08:54AM (#33865636)
If your fraud detection cant do anything with name, address, phone number, and credit card and you need Drivers License/Passports then you probably need to pay for a better one.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by Aeolun on Monday December 05, 2022 @09:15AM (#33865886)
What do you expect a German company to do with a copy of your drivers license or passport? Is this one of those situations where it contains your your social security number and it therefore becomes direct access to your bank account?

The only thing I imagine someone could do with the copy of my passport is pretend to be me when they sign up for a similar service.

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by hobs on Monday December 05, 2022 @09:26AM (#33866027)
Yes, pretend to be me and charge me for their actions. We call this identity theft and it is a rampant problem.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by hotpotamus on Monday December 05, 2022 @08:36AM (#33865416)
Interestingly, I've never used Digital Ocean because when I went to sign up (in my memory it would be circa 2015, but my memory is not what it once was) you had to give them something like your Twitter or Github name, which I didn't feel like sharing.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by jmartrican on Monday December 05, 2022 @11:38AM (#33867866)
I signed up to DO about 2 years ago. They didn't ask me for Twitter or GitHub. As I recall, it was a normal setup process.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by AnonCoward42 on Monday December 05, 2022 @08:43AM (#33865502)
eBay did this to me. They let me enter everything and then said they can't validate my ID without any way to fix that even. It's a nice way to provoke people for sure.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by bachmeier on Monday December 05, 2022 @09:02AM (#33865738)
Thanks for the notification. I came to ask if they were still doing this. I found this to be an exceptionally shady practice. They took my information first, then they wanted some ridiculously personal information that they didn't need. I assumed at first that I had gone to the wrong URL. I don't even know how that additional information would have helped them with their "identification". The only thing it did was expose the information of legitimate users to being stolen.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by isodev on Monday December 05, 2022 @11:58AM (#33868170)
Your address and phone point to a location, not necessarily a valid identity but I understand you may be hesitant to share personal info with just anyone. If you are a EU citizen you can ask them exactly how long your data is retained and who may have access to it (it’s actually published to on their website). They use it only as a 2nd level verification to prevent spam (not shared with 3rd parties). As a German/EU company, Hetzner is subject to all regulatory requirements for handling of personal information and so when leaving, you can also request the deletion of your data (or just consult their retention period)
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by GekkePrutser on Monday December 05, 2022 @05:54PM (#33873087)
This is a problem with Hetzner yes. Last time they wanted a copy of my ID. I blacked out my social security number as this is considered private for Dutch citizens (even the police advises people to black this part out) and it took some arguing for them to accept it. I sent them the police advisory and that helped.

Recently I signed up for something else from Hetzner (needed temporary storage) and they didn't request anything even though I had closed my account before so I created a new one. So perhaps they have mended their ways.

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by aent on Monday December 05, 2022 @09:26PM (#33875106)
Mind that sending it does not even guarantee that you'll pass that validation, I sent them my ID and they still locked me out for apparently no reason.