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Re:The Twitter Files by brchn on Saturday December 03, 2022 @10:03AM (#33843966)
The fact that they listen to the government requests is the scary part. They should just have a consistent content moderation policy and enforce it.
Re:The Twitter Files by haswell on Saturday December 03, 2022 @10:22AM (#33844099)
A consistent content moderation policy would accept reports of problematic content regardless of the source of the report.

To me, the bigger issue is the white glove treatment, and the appearance of preferential moderation.

But I think that’s where political realities come into play. I don’t doubt that these companies feel the need to make lawmakers feel heard or risk legislation/regulation that will harm the platforms.

I think this is touching on something much bigger, in that these kinds of government/company relationships are everywhere, and have been for decades.

The difference with the Twitter situation is one of public visibility and direct impact on individuals trying to do something as seemingly innocuous as post and share links on social media.

Which is absolutely not to excuse the behavior. If anything, I hope this wakes up more average Americans to the kinds of quid pro quo and shady handshake deals that have been going on forever.

Re:The Twitter Files by UncleMeat on Saturday December 03, 2022 @10:13AM (#33844052)
And like virtually every system on the planet, there are false negatives. So external groups might send over things and say "hey, I think you missed this."
Re:The Twitter Files by brchn on Sunday December 04, 2022 @08:18AM (#33853450)
That’s alright, but when the tweet doesn’t actually violate the ToS, it’s a true negative that requires no intervention by interested political parties.
Re:The Twitter Files by UncleMeat on Sunday December 04, 2022 @09:44AM (#33854090)
Sure. Are any of the linked cases tweets that didn't actually violate the ToS? Is there any evidence that twitter took down tweets without reviewing them further?
Re:The Twitter Files by brchn on Monday December 05, 2022 @03:50PM (#33871724)
You’re right. I think there isn’t any and I was initially misled.
Re:The Twitter Files by anderber on Saturday December 03, 2022 @10:11AM (#33844030)
Shouldn't they listen to anyone who showcasing someone violating their TOS? Does it matter that it was a staffer in Washington?
Re:The Twitter Files by brchn on Sunday December 04, 2022 @08:22AM (#33853476)
They can just report the tweet like I or you could.
Re:The Twitter Files by ModernMech on Sunday December 04, 2022 @10:09AM (#33854348)
How many times do we see someone turning to HN as a side channel into big tech because the official channels aren’t as responsive? It’s normal and expected for people to use any methods available in their wider social network to achieve an objective. If there’s no law against it (as there isn’t here) then what’s the problem?
Re:The Twitter Files by evanb on Saturday December 03, 2022 @10:50AM (#33844341)
The linked tweet points to October 2020. That's before the election and long before Biden was installed; the requests were not from the government.
Re:The Twitter Files by brchn on Sunday December 04, 2022 @08:21AM (#33853467)
I stand corrected- it was not the government but the Biden campaign team 1 month before the 2020 election.
Re:The Twitter Files by RavingGoat on Saturday December 03, 2022 @11:30AM (#33844630)
Not part of the government. Biden was a private citizen. Trump was the president at the time.
Re:The Twitter Files by brchn on Sunday December 04, 2022 @08:18AM (#33853438)
Even worse, why can’t they just report the tweets via the app like every other Twitter user?
Re:The Twitter Files by candybar on Saturday December 03, 2022 @02:53PM (#33846670)
When Twitter tried to just apply consistent content moderation policies and right-wing politicians ended up being banned for repeated violations of Twitter ToS, there was a ton of outrage, among much of the exact same group of people that are talking about how bad it is that politicians appear to have a direct line of communication with Twitter policy teams.
Re:The Twitter Files by s3p on Sunday December 04, 2022 @09:22PM (#33860665)
This was not a government request. No one who asked Twitter to remove these tweets on behalf of Biden was in government. Biden was not in government at the time.