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Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by maxsilver on Thursday December 01, 2022 @11:16PM (#33826704)
> the large increase of people identifying as trans(trans women in particular)

Well, that's not quite accurate. (a) there isn't a large increase of trans people, historically speaking, just folks being more open and honest about their status recently, since it's become marginally less punished in a few specific places, than it has been prior, and (b) in recent years, trans men or transmasc folks are the largest group of those new influx, not trans women.

> There are massive amounts of compounds in our environment that are endocrine disrupters or mimic sex hormones like estrogen

If people were getting estrogen in the environment that they didn't want in any amount meaningful enough to effect them, you'd wouldn't expect to see more trans women (trans women, generally speaking, are usually deficient in estrogen), you'd expect to see more dysphoric men. You'd expect to see a sharp increase in cis men presenting with ED and gynecomastia and such. (Which, to be fair, is a thing we're seeing. But so far, appears to be mainly linked to increasing obesity rates)

> Maybe they would even benefit more from hormone treatments in the opposite direction than the "gender affirming" treatments.

This is barbaric if you think about it for more than 5 seconds. So barbaric in fact, that it's been outlawed in many nations -- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy for more info

Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by SamoyedFurFluff on Friday December 02, 2022 @12:10AM (#33827056)
Additionally, as trans people are more accepted the rate of the increasing population of trans people is slowing. This suggests that it’s stabilizing and that the population would normally always have a % of trans people if it weren’t for oppression (like left handed ness rapidly increased in the generation we stopped punishing people with left handedness and then it leveled off)
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by brailsafe on Friday December 02, 2022 @01:41AM (#33827600)
> You'd expect to see a sharp increase in cis men presenting with ED and gynecomastia and such.

It does feel like I've seen more men with more than just regular moobs, who aren't necessarily otherwise severely obese. The trans women I know have less shapely breasts even though they're deliberately taking hormones, and it's a bit bizarre. Not a huge amount, but enough to notice.

Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by 4gotunameagain on Friday December 02, 2022 @04:47AM (#33828595)
Currently it is impossible to know whether the increasing numbers of people identifying as trans is due to less fear of punishment as you say, or due to hormonal disruption. The only way I've thought of is long term studies of endocrine disruption quantification in pregnant mothers and their children, correlated with transexualism.

> This is barbaric if you think about it for more than 5 seconds.

It is barbaric to not even consider a different point of view because it opposes your religion (yes, I think it is a religion at this point)

Sorry if I appear harsh, but I believe that in a couple of decades we will look back at what the pharma industry is doing to "trans" people as we look back on lobotomy now.

Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by ironmagma on Friday December 02, 2022 @01:42PM (#33834823)
The expediency with which children are put on this surgery track is truly disgusting. Let them grow up and decide with a brain that can consent.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by minig33 on Saturday December 03, 2022 @10:48AM (#33844317)
Children are not getting surgery in any significant numbers. This is a made up right wing talking point
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by ironmagma on Saturday December 03, 2022 @11:06AM (#33844443)
You could say the same about child abuse. That doesn’t make it not disgusting or unimportant. If you have to hide the things you are doing to children from the parents, you’re doing a bad thing.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by virgildotcodes on Saturday December 03, 2022 @02:14PM (#33846333)
Not necessarily true. A bunch of parents would prohibit their children from using contraceptives if they had total control.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by ironmagma on Saturday December 03, 2022 @02:34PM (#33846499)
The notion that it’s a school’s place to usurp the parent’s choices of how to raise the kid is the problem here. If the majority of the parents oppose that, the school shouldn’t do it. It’s a public school, it should serve the interests and desires of the public.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by bigbillheck on Sunday December 04, 2022 @12:56PM (#33855923)
A majority of parents opposed integration, doesn't mean they shouldn't have done it.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by ironmagma on Sunday December 04, 2022 @01:14PM (#33856095)
Leave it to the left to liken freeing the slaves to coercing children into irreversible surgery.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by bigbillheck on Sunday December 04, 2022 @06:43PM (#33859357)
My school taught me the difference between 'integration' and 'emancipation'.
Re:Sperm counts worldwide are plummeting faster than we thought by ironmagma on Monday December 05, 2022 @11:10AM (#33867434)
And my school taught me the definition of consent.